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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I thought we were talking about whether the NSA
    No, the thread is about a clemency petition for a traitor.
    I think I'll stay with the opinion of Boehner and McCain--that Snowden is a traitor .
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    The idea that what the NSA is doing doesn't violate the 4th amendment is a joke.

    If you want to try and make the argument that we have no choice that's fine, but don't pretend its all perfectly constitutional. I'm also going to have to go slippery slope on this one. Today they use it to protect us from terrorists, tomorrow they'll be writing us speeding tickets using gps data from our cell phones. Its an awesome power that they wield like children in daddy's gun safe.

    Also if you look at all the evidence, its obvious they do far more than they officially admit to. The whole thing stinks.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    1-I was still talking about the NSA, not Snowden.
    And your attempt to derail and go to NSA is admitted by your own words .

    2-Who cares if Turley and Hewitt write for Townhall.
    I do .
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    No, the thread is about a clemency petition for a traitor.
    I think I'll stay with the opinion of Boehner and McCain--that Snowden is a traitor .
    Before you jump in and tell me how you agree the Johns, please realize there was another dialogue going on that you had no reason to interrupt.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    The idea that what the NSA is doing doesn't violate the 4th amendment is a joke.
    You are being used by Paulbots in forming the Amash coalition.
    Where was this phony libertarian outrage last decade ?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And your attempt to derail and go to NSA is admitted by your own words .
    Discussion of the NSA began with the OP.

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    I do .
    Congratulations. I still fail to see how it is anything but totally irrelevant as to their opinions of the NSA.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    I could care less.
    Stay on the topic of the thread, as I am told, and which I do, obeying the dp rules.
    Go start yourself a new thread on your derail .
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Before you jump in and tell me how you agree the Johns, please realize there was another dialogue going on that you had no reason to interrupt.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Discussion of the NSA began with the OP..
    doesn't matter--and Snowden should still get the guillotine .
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I could care less.
    Stay on the topic of the thread, as I am told, and which I do, obeying the dp rules.
    Go start yourself a new thread on your derail .
    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    doesn't matter--and Snowden should still get the guillotine .
    Doesn't matter?

    Well, this isn't your thread, you can't pick and choose what parts of the OP you want to exist, and you can't make me leave the thread.

    Lump it.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You are being used by Paulbots in forming the Amash coalition.
    Where was this phony libertarian outrage last decade ?
    I like Ron somewhat, keep him at arm's length. Rand I don't much care for. Overall I have little in the support for their beliefs.

    However this isn't about them, its about the NSA and their role in our lives going forward. They need to back off and reassess how far they go and that's not going to happen if we don't forcefully fight back. This is our chance to make things right and if we don't we can be assured that government spying on us will become a fact of life. I don't think there is anything American about that.

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