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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Spying on every americans phone calls and Internet activity is not necessary. Furthermore, spying on all the Internet activity of the world is not necessary. Take your "we have a reason to be scared" crap and shove it.
    ...Aren't you the one scared of the NSA? What is your background in defense or intelligence?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Spying on every americans phone calls and Internet activity is not necessary. Furthermore, spying on all the Internet activity of the world is not necessary. Take your "we have a reason to be scared" crap and shove it.
    Dude you're hilarious!
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ...Aren't you the one scared of the NSA? What is your background in defense or intelligence?
    A lone American cannot defend him/herself from a secretive agency that operates in the dark. Senator Church's assessment of the NSA has vastly more relevance than anything you could say in ten thousand posts defending them.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ...Aren't you the one scared of the NSA? What is your background in defense or intelligence?
    I was unaware that standing for the rights of people meant I was scared of something. I will be sure to tell every freedom fighter throughout history they were scared.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A lone American cannot defend him/herself from a secretive agency that operates in the dark. Senator Church's assessment of the NSA has vastly more relevance than anything you could say in ten thousand posts defending them.
    Remember that time you grossly exaggerated what that federal judge said about NSA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I was unaware that standing for the rights of people meant I was scared of something. I will be sure to tell every freedom fighter throughout history they were scared.
    Oh lol. Why did you think I was scared if you were going to react so negatively when I called you scared? You don't like it?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    I post this, not for those who are indifferent about civil liberty, but for any who might be unaware of the Church Committees report to congress in 1976. And that was then, one can only imagine now, and clearly in the end Church was more a prophet than a Paul Revere. If Americans fail to take the problem that is the NSA seriously, they won't be having anything else to take seriously.

    In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
    If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.
    I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.[17][18][19]


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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Remember that time you grossly exaggerated what that federal judge said about NSA?



    Oh lol. Why did you think I was scared if you were going to react so negatively when I called you scared? You don't like it?
    Not at all. Shall I post it again?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Oh lol. Why did you think I was scared if you were going to react so negatively when I called you scared? You don't like it?
    So it's not fear that drives people to support the government knowing everything about their citizens?

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I was unaware that standing for the rights of people meant I was scared of something. I will be sure to tell every freedom fighter throughout history they were scared.
    It's just amazing that this has to be defended. But the dude worked/works for the NSA. Some people get out because they see the problem, some people enjoy it. Some people could kill you and go have a nice meal.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not at all. Shall I post it again?
    Are you serious? lol
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