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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Hilariously, constitutional scholars seem to disagree with you.

    Snowden deserves a bullet to the head, frankly. Even if you think he should've shard the information about phone metadata, he still shared so much more- stuff about spying on other nations. Why are people cool with that? Why do they ignore that?
    True Constitutional scholars are on my side. I could understand why those who choose to be liars and subvert it while hiding behind their law degree would "disagree" with me.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    True Constitutional scholars are on my side.
    lol what? Did you seriously just say that only people that agree with you are "true"? What's your constitutional law background anyway?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    A traitor to whom?
    To the United States. When you give every frickin' secret of your country to the Russians, you are a traitor.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    True Constitutional scholars are on my side. I could understand why those who choose to be liars and subvert it while hiding behind their law degree would "disagree" with me.


    Which would that be.....Hugh Hewitt is a Constitutional Attorney from Yale and was a former SCOTUS clerk. Jonathon Turley is another Constitutional Attorney. Seem many say Snowden is a traitor.

    Even Holder says Clemency would be going to far.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Hilariously, constitutional scholars seem to disagree with you.

    Snowden deserves a bullet to the head, frankly. Even if you think he should've shard the information about phone metadata, he still shared so much more- stuff about spying on other nations. Why are people cool with that? Why do they ignore that?
    an easy question to answer. The Wing nuts hate the country and are in favor of anything that hurts the U.S. Military secrets? No big deal. Intelligence assets? screw them. The rest of the idiots who think this guy is some kind of hero are too dumb to look behind the headlines and ask what exactly was taken and why did he go to Russia?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which would that be.....Hugh Hewitt is a Constitutional Attorney from Yale and was a former SCOTUS clerk. Jonathon Turley is another Constitutional Attorney. Seem many say Snowden is a traitor.

    Even Holder says Clemency would be going to far.
    I thought we were talking about whether the NSA (and I am referring to the source of their controversy: blanket data collection) was Constitutional or not.

    Do Hewitt and Turley support it?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    The Wing nuts hate the country and are in favor of anything that hurts the U.S.
    If by "Wing nuts" you are using the common loon usage referring to Conservatives, this statement is absolute nonsense. Completely out of touch with reality.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    lol what? Did you seriously just say that only people that agree with you are "true"? What's your constitutional law background anyway?
    Anybody who intentionally changes the meaning of the words of the Constitution is inherently dishonest and not a true scholar.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Anybody who intentionally changes the meaning of the words of the Constitution is inherently dishonest and not a true scholar.
    And anyone that disagrees with you must be changing meaning, right? What was your background, again?

    Get out of here with this silly nonsense, no one past grade school believes that kind of stuff: "If you don't share my opinion you're WRONG!!" I'm laughing at you.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I thought we were talking about whether the NSA (and I am referring to the source of their controversy: blanket data collection) was Constitutional or not.

    Do Hewitt and Turley support it?
    Free Edward Snowden -- Really?



    Former CIA Director James Woolsey has pronounced that the proper punishment for National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden would be for him to be "hanged by his neck until he is dead."

    The news media want to hand him not a rope but a pedestal.

    Snowden has argued that he had a moral duty to challenge an intelligence machinery that was out of control. Hudson Institute senior fellow Gabriel Schoenfeld, author of "Necessary Secrets: National Security, the Media, and the Rule of Law," is not impressed. Snowden outed U.S. intelligence "for engaging in activity that almost every state engages in." The former contractor then went into hiding in China and Russia, where he enjoys temporary asylum. "I think it is disgraceful," quoth Schoenfeld, that Snowden lectures Washington but "doesn't have the courage to criticize abuses of free speech in his host country."

    To reach its "free Snowden" position, the Times quoted a federal judge who found the NSA program to be "almost Orwellian" while ignoring another federal judge who upheld the program's constitutionality. The Times also ignored testimony that "telephony metadata" prevented as many as 50 potential terrorist attacks, including a 2009 plot to blow up the New York subway.

    Former CIA spokesman Bill Harlow is not unfamiliar with that sneaking suspicion. He thinks Snowden is a "traitor." If the administration is toying with a deal, he said, it would send a catastrophic message to would-be leakers. To wit: "Just make sure you steal enough."

    It's almost funny when you follow the editorial boards' logic. The papers argued that Snowden is a hero because he leaked material about which the public has a right to know. Then they supported granting amnesty or leniency if Snowden would agree to hand over any remaining documents rather than share them with the world. A trial would give Snowden the opportunity to tell his story, the American public a chance to find out what exactly Snowden leaked and Washington the burden of proving a criminal case -- but the Times and The Guardian apparently prefer a backroom deal.....snip~

    Free Edward Snowden -- Really? - Debra J. Saunders - Page 2

    Both Turley and Hewitt write for Townhall.
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