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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I see no reference to him making any ruling today. Do you have a link? Or are you referring to the opinion he issued in December, which was neither yesterday nor quite what you represent?
    Yes I forgot the link. But your aware of it anyway, it was his words not mine, but just as easily could have been.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes I forgot the link. But your aware of it anyway, it was his words not mine, but just as easily could have been.
    Actually you did not post his words.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Monte. Do people even pay attention to the things that Snowden has stated himself. Do you think that his behavior and his own words sets himself up?

    You don't believe that BS that he thought he was trying to Improve the NSA, do you?


    "I already won," Snowden said. "As soon as the journalists were able to work, everything that I had been trying to do was validated. Because, remember, I didn't want to change society. I wanted to give society a chance to determine if it should change itself."

    Last week, a White House-appointed panel proposed curbs on some key NSA surveillance operations, recommending limits on a program to collect records of billions of telephone calls, and new tests before Washington spies on foreign leaders. The panel's proposals were made in the wake of Snowden's revelations.

    President Barack Obama later tried to strike a middle ground, saying some checks were needed on the NSA's surveillance, but "we can't unilaterally disarm.

    In the interview, Snowden denied he was trying to bring down the NSA. "I am working to improve the NSA," he said. "I am still working for the NSA right now. They are the only ones who don't realize it.".....snip~

    Mission accomplished, says Snowden: Washington Post - Reuters News 12/23/2013 11:34 PM

    Yes the guy who used another to get into some things, using some program to trace and copy over intel, and all that validated experience which shows he is one of the most intelligent people in the intelligence world and able to act as a cryptologist with all he never understood. But knowing it was important. .....

    Do you think he could have went to the Press with the barest of Validated info and still proved his point without endangering others and affect US National Interests?
    Hey bud, I'm not satisfied that he's harmed anything. Embarrassed, perhaps. For me, Snowden is a whistle blower and the benefit outweighs the cost. I've had a problem with the NSA since the Church committees findings.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I asked you if you would like to see Clapper and or the NSA prosecuted.
    Any prosecutions should be from the top down.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Oh yes, I remember your position now. You're in the "There are proper channels he could've chosen." group. You can't really use that to challenge the president and congress. You're reporting to them something they already know and are actively choosing to do. That never would've brought this to light.
    Right. It's a joke that the government is going to provide proper channels for people to expose their wrong doing. Obama campaigned on improving whistle blower protections but has prosecuted more of them than any predecessor.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Any prosecutions should be from the top down.
    Agreed. But if you mean Obama, America doesn't do that unfortunately.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hey bud, I'm not satisfied that he's harmed anything. Embarrassed, perhaps. For me, Snowden is a whistle blower and the benefit outweighs the cost. I've had a problem with the NSA since the Church committees findings.
    Uhhh...he didn't harm intelligence collection in Germany, Mexico, and China by sharing details about US intelligence operations against those countries? What world do you live in?
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually you did not post his words.
    Yes sure. Read it here.

    Legal Expert Jonathan Turley: Obama's Defense of NSA Monitoring Is 'Laughable' | Fox News Insider
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Uhhh...he didn't harm intelligence collection in Germany, Mexico, and China by sharing details about US intelligence operations against those countries? What world do you live in?
    The, I'm not scared world.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    You might want to go back and read the post I responded to. I did not comment on Turley, as I could really care less what he said.
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