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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Your polling is not better than gallop.
    You're right, it's not polling at all, it's real life observation.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You're right, it's not polling at all, it's real life observation.
    I really hope you're just funning me.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I really hope you're just funning me.
    Just letting you know polls are extremely flawed.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Just letting you know polls are extremely flawed.
    Individually they certainly can be. But taken in tandem with multiple other polls you can actually get a pretty good picture of the truth. And this strategy will always give more accurate results than your "real life observation." If I did what you did, I could conclude that half of all people are Mexican and everyone wants to be in show business.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I think you may want to correct that last sentence to "And to think, these people run for political offfices." you can thank me later.
    Consider yourself thanked.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    I live in Georgia and I can tell you it isn't an all or nothing type of thing when it comes to creationism and evolution. To make it out that way seems wrong to me. A couple of very religious neighbors who live across the road from me truly believe god created the heavens and the earth. But as to the means, they also believe in evolution and the big bang theory. Now this isn't a whole lot of people to go by, but as religious as they are, I would assume their believe that god created everything and that evolution happened is the norm. But then again, I know what assumptions do to you.

    As for how old the earth is, my old boss was also very religious. He once told me no where in the bible does it say how old it is. It doesn't matter how old the earth is as long as one has faith in god and Jesus. A man trying to count up generations to find out what only god knows will not be successful. Interesting aspects these religious folks have. But to me it tells me among them creationism and evolution definitely is not an all one and none of the other proposition. They can very easily exists side by side and together. In fact according to those I know, they do.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I live in Georgia and I can tell you it isn't an all or nothing type of thing when it comes to creationism and evolution. To make it out that way seems wrong to me. A couple of very religious neighbors who live across the road from me truly believe god created the heavens and the earth. But as to the means, they also believe in evolution and the big bang theory. Now this isn't a whole lot of people to go by, but as religious as they are, I would assume their believe that god created everything and that evolution happened is the norm. But then again, I know what assumptions do to you.

    As for how old the earth is, my old boss was also very religious. He once told me no where in the bible does it say how old it is. It doesn't matter how old the earth is as long as one has faith in god and Jesus. A man trying to count up generations to find out what only god knows will not be successful. Interesting aspects these religious folks have. But to me it tells me among them creationism and evolution definitely is not an all one and none of the other proposition. They can very easily exists side by side and together. In fact according to those I know, they do.
    And that's why trusting your own anecdotal evidence or "real life observation" only explains your personal experience of what is immediately around you, and not the larger truth.

    I "knew" that Bush was going to be voted out in 2004 because "everyone" knew he was so awful, just as Republicans "knew" that Obama was going to be tossed out in 2012. Point is, you can't trust your own bubble.

    I don't actually doubt that people are more complex irl than the simplified picture that polls often present, but somebody keeps picking the "Creationism" choice in all these polls, and the number of those somebodies always seems to be in the mid to high 30's.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I believe the 2008 and 2012 Presidental elections showed that.
    The two elections before that might even be worse.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This is why teacher unions need to just STFU about their pay.
    I don't agree. What they pay soldiers, cops, firemen, nurses and teachers is abysmal for the amount of heart, soul, blood, sweat and tears they put in.
    If I were a teacher, I'd want to beat every kid into submission because their parents spoil them rotten, telling them they can do no wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yes indeed. Scary thought that so many Americans are that ignorant. It makes me wonder what they do indeed think- that the earth is just out here floating in space, and there is no relationship between the planets, sun, moon, stars, and everything else the universe consists of? Do they not think at all about where they are? That frankly just blows my mind.
    Their worlds are small and their general knowledge, not well rounded. I find young teenagers hyper intelligent in some areas or subjects (technology), but they struggle to spell properly or know about basic information. Society is failing these kids by giving them what they want, instead of structure and a foundation. Parents are afraid of their children, not liking them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This don't surprise me any. I have a friend who's friend back east didn't even know what a star was and had never even seen one before...besides the obviousness of our sun being a star...but to him it wasn't a "star"..it was The Sun. (its what happens when you live in big cities your entire life I guess...)
    Some people who are street smart (NYC) are almost like Hillbillies, in a similar fashion of being knowledgable about their immediate surroundings. They don't have a lot of schooling but they can impress you about how well they survive in their jungle.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I really question the validity of these supposed surveys. Even I know that the Sun revolves around the earth or we would have days and nights.

    I've read other surveys that claim 80% of Americans believe in Angels. So, tell me, does anyone here believe that there are Angels (I'm not asking about "God" - I'm asking about Angels who may or may not be servants of God).

    I think these myths are created for shock value. This is how these Groups or Foundations apply for grants and donations, by "alarming" us that we are so very dumb. Sure, there are some incredibly dumb people but 25%? Really?
    Rotation of the earth causes Day and Night, not solar orbit. I assume you just misspoke.

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