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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Darlin' you're never in trouble. I was commenting on the OP title.
    Oh, I know. Just being silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    But just imagine in a state as large as Texas, how is that enough people are ignorant about creationism-reality to even allow these things? That's what worries me, not that it is suggested or wanted, but that it's allowed, which means lots of folks are either already strangely ignorant, or they just don't care about education.
    Assuming that this is not 100% of the educational platform. I question if it matters. As long as they (children) are taught reading, writing and 'rithmatic, does it matter whether galactic rotations? Lets assume for the moment that I believed the sun rotates around the earth. Or that the earth rotates around the moon? Or if NIMBY and Kepler are friends? Or (for NIMBY) that I don't understand the difference between circular or rotational movement? Or the difference between the 4 dimensions?

    Obviously, that child has no future in engineering, but that doesn't mean they can't get $45 an hour working on an oil rig. I would think that most of them (children) get past their religious indoctrination and that eventually, they will discover how things actually work.

    Do I support this type of nonsense education? Hell NO. But I don't think the ignorance is as widespread as the OP implies. I'm guessing that the families that support this type of education are of lesser than normal intelligence and their children are not genetically qualified for big success. So, does it matter?



    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm sure you know it revolves in an ellipse while it rotates on an axis.
    Kepler's three laws of motion come in handy here.

    Kids have a tough time between circular and rorational motion,
    especially when the dumb-ass Math dept. doesn't believe in using Metrics or any other units.
    They wonder why they don't get the difference between the three dimensions .
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's a sign that a small, educated percentage of our populace are in positions of prominence and leadership. The bulk of the masses are not middle class educated anymore or even triple digit IQ.
    I believe the 2008 and 2012 Presidental elections showed that.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Stupid is a measurement of intellectual ability. It seems like you are retreating to a position that they are spectacularly wrong, but not describing it thus.
    Insisting on young earth creationism is stupidity, not just spectacularly wrong.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It could be that in order to counter the anti-religious sector of society, some people have pass that on as fact but, not where I'm from.

    I've been to all sorts of Christian churches and have never heard such. And these aren't big city, all-denom churches, these are small town churches where one would think such ideology would exist.

    I learned my science right along with my religion.
    Maybe I'm missing something, but what are you saying? That YEC's don't exist? Or that they're incredibly rare?

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Nah, it was earlier than that, it was the 2000 and 2004 election. Seriously who was the evangelical christian in office and who is the elitist snob? When you are so far off the mark when poutraging about Obama, it helps the rest of us keep all your remarks in proper perspective.... ignorant and useless.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    It is important to note that 6 or so years ago more people would have gotten that question right. However many people now think the world revolves around Obama.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Insisting on young earth creationism is stupidity, not just spectacularly wrong.
    I'm curious if the word ignorant might be the word you're looking for... stupidity is more a state of ability to learn.... ignorance relates more to one's willingness to learn.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I'm curious if the word ignorant might be the word you're looking for... stupidity is more a state of ability to learn.... ignorance relates more to one's willingness to learn.
    Ignorance is lack of knowledge. I'm ignorant about Ukrainian culture, I'm ignorant about particle physics, etc. Where one insists on believing something that is demonstrably false is definitely in the realm of stupidity.

    But anyway, I'm really not interested in debating the differences between ignorance and stupidity.

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    From the article >"One in three respondents said science should get more funding from the government."<

    With the left including the teachers unions, the government is always the solution.

    How much of the tax payers money will it cost for a teacher to spend three seconds telling their students that the Earth revolves around the Sun ? $100 million ?

    I would be more interesting on seeing the demographics breakdown on these individuals who believe the Sun revolves around Earth. The scuttlebutt has been that besides importing poverty into America we have been importing stupid people who have the "Crab Mentality."

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

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    1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    I thought this article was about America prior to Galileo? Scary....
    This is why teacher unions need to just STFU about their pay.

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