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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    While the trend here seems to have shifted to blaming the teaching systems, I'd like to point out it doesn't say 1 in 4 STUDENTS, I would imagine that there are a ton of adults that didn't answer the question correctly. Many who probably knew at one time or another, and just let it fade away. Particularly math and science that many adults simply don't use and don't care about, we forget. Also the median age of pollable people is getting older and older because of landlines being replaced by the youth with cellphones. No offense intended but I'd bet these results have much more to do with old age than teaching the young.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Prove you're not lying? Oh,,, you can't that's what I thought.
    Lying about what exactly? I bet that sounded better in your head...

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know if it is true or not, but in an age of polls which are quite scientific accurate within their margins of error which is usually 2-4 points, I don't see a reason not too. When you throw in common math and the problems people have in figuring out your change if the cash register isn't working, I think I can believe it.
    That actually isn't fair. Back before I was an accountant with an adding machine, I could do all sorts of math in my head, fairly complex. Once I started using the 10-key, calculators, and such, which I had to do so I'd have the ticker tape to attach to my reports as "proof" for superiors, I slowly lost the the ability to do math in my head, but my fingers now can do it super fast. So is it stupidity or is it simply a reliance on machines that never required one to have the skill to do math in your head quickly. Even in math class, pre-calculator, you had pencil and paper, very few people who are not regularly doing it, can figure change. Nowadays, almost no one is required to do that unless and until the machines go down.

    Anyway, in the end you're being entirely unfair to judge current education levels based on being able to figure taxes and change in their heads. Not to mention, anymore with inventory so connected to the cash registers, companies simply will refuse to let anyone do what you're suggesting but will instead stop all sales til the registers are back up.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    That actually isn't fair. Back before I was an accountant with an adding machine, I could do all sorts of math in my head, fairly complex. Once I started using the 10-key, calculators, and such, which I had to do so I'd have the ticker tape to attach to my reports as "proof" for superiors, I slowly lost the the ability to do math in my head, but my fingers now can do it super fast. So is it stupidity or is it simply a reliance on machines that never required one to have the skill to do math in your head quickly. Even in math class, pre-calculator, you had pencil and paper, very few people who are not regularly doing it, can figure change. Nowadays, almost no one is required to do that unless and until the machines go down.

    Anyway, in the end you're being entirely unfair to judge current education levels based on being able to figure taxes and change in their heads. Not to mention, anymore with inventory so connected to the cash registers, companies simply will refuse to let anyone do what you're suggesting but will instead stop all sales til the registers are back up.
    It may or may not be fair, but when I buy a combo for 5.99 at burger king or where ever it just isn't that hard. I can remember when the schools started allowing calculators when my youngest daughter went to school. I thought then it was a big mistake. I don't think they even teach long math in schools these days. Just how to use a calculator.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    But liberals think income inequality is:
    1. surprising
    2. one of our biggest issues.

    (how about common sense inequality?)

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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know if it is true or not, but in an age of polls which are quite scientific accurate within their margins of error which is usually 2-4 points, I don't see a reason not too. When you throw in common math and the problems people have in figuring out your change if the cash register isn't working, I think I can believe it.
    The problems is, I don't know if this poll was actually scientific.

    Sometimes I wonder if some persons believe all polls, scientific or not.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    But liberals think income inequality is:
    1. surprising
    2. one of our biggest issues.

    (how about common sense inequality?)
    It would be interesting to see the stats on how many of the 1 in 4 were conservatives. I'm thinking a pretty high percentage.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The problems is, I don't know if this poll was actually scientific.

    Sometimes I wonder if some persons believe all polls, scientific or not.
    the polls i use to make my election predictions i trust. They have rarely led me astray. This one I don't know.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Perhaps the OP title was edited by one of the 25% since the lead sentence and other references in the article use the word revolve in place of circle.
    Circle is acceptable but orbit would be the correct term.
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    Re: 1 in 4 Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    It would be interesting to see the stats on how many of the 1 in 4 were conservatives. I'm thinking a pretty high percentage.
    While not the internals of this poll, here were results from a similar poll, that asked a similar question.

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