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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
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    So you're wrong, obviously so via basic reasoning; yet, you refuse to accept that. Egypt needs all the help it can get. Russia helping is a good thing.

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

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    Perhaps you should write a manifesto. You could mail it to people.
    Great idea. Send me the stamps. No Egyptian stamps please. I heard the new ones will have pictures of Putin. The Arab Spring stamps are past their expiration date. Ask the CIA to give refunds .

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Great idea. Send me the stamps.
    Get a job.

    No Egyptian stamps please. I heard the new ones will have pictures of Putin.
    I appreciate Putin's assistance in Egypt. If the place turns into Syria and the government kills 100k and gasses the capital, then I was wrong. But I think Egypt will be ok, it needs arms contracts from somewhere (forgoing such is not an economic or developmental option) and it probably will not go Assad on us.


    The Arab Spring stamps are past their expiration date. Ask the CIA to give refunds .
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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Great idea. Send me the stamps. No Egyptian stamps please. I heard the new ones will have pictures of Putin. The Arab Spring stamps are past their expiration date. Ask the CIA to give refunds .
    +1

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Yahoo!

    Obama unilaterally ( without calls from Congress to do so) recently suspended :
    U.S. suspends significant military aid to Egypt - CNN.com


    This was a blunder, un needed , allowing Russia to pounce on the opening to wedge into the ME, garnishing support from the US closest Arab ally .

    Putin today also praised the Egyptian constitution, recognizing it produces "stability'; which is what most Egyptians want ( sans the Muslim Brotherhood).

    Once again (like Syria) Putin is a chess player in strategic reach, while the US knocks down years of ties to Egypt like dominos -
    Obama wears a dunce cap in the corner of the room watching the handshake of Sisi and Putin in Moscow.

    He is single handedly allowing Russia to expand influence in the ME, for stupid, inanities reasons, being unable to comprehend realpolitik
    We shouldn't be arming any country other than ourselves.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Agreed. Russia is now in a more influential position in the ME than the US is, in spite of all the blood and treasure we have spent there.

    Another sterling performance by Obama and Kerry in the international political arena. (sarcasm)
    I suppose you can't expect better from a community organizer and a liberal elitist.


    Heya Eorhn that's what the minister of Egypt is talking about.


    Egypt: FM - Russia-Egypt 2+2 Talks Allow Coordinating Positions On Int'l, Regional Issues

    "Russian hospitality is sufficient reason as it is for this visit, but I would like also to note that this format of talks involving the foreign and defense ministers reflects fully positions of negotiating parties on regional and international issues," Fahmy said.

    Fahmy noted that Egypt and Russia have many issues, which should be discussed at talks on Thursday, including international problems, primarily the situation in the Middle East as well as different aspects of bilateral relations, including ties in trade and economic, cultural and humanitarian spheres and development of military-technical cooperation.

    The minister also noted that ongoing meetings in Moscow "reflect Egypt's support to Russia's position over preserving stability in the region of the Middle East and North Africa and averting attempts at destabilizing the situation.".....snip~

    allAfrica.com: Egypt: FM - Russia-Egypt 2+2 Talks Allow Coordinating Positions On Int'l, Regional Issues

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Eorhn that's what the minister of Egypt is talking about.


    Egypt: FM - Russia-Egypt 2+2 Talks Allow Coordinating Positions On Int'l, Regional Issues

    "Russian hospitality is sufficient reason as it is for this visit, but I would like also to note that this format of talks involving the foreign and defense ministers reflects fully positions of negotiating parties on regional and international issues," Fahmy said.

    Fahmy noted that Egypt and Russia have many issues, which should be discussed at talks on Thursday, including international problems, primarily the situation in the Middle East as well as different aspects of bilateral relations, including ties in trade and economic, cultural and humanitarian spheres and development of military-technical cooperation.

    The minister also noted that ongoing meetings in Moscow "reflect Egypt's support to Russia's position over preserving stability in the region of the Middle East and North Africa and averting attempts at destabilizing the situation.".....snip~

    allAfrica.com: Egypt: FM - Russia-Egypt 2+2 Talks Allow Coordinating Positions On Int'l, Regional Issues
    "reflect Egypt's support to Russia's position over preserving stability in the region of the Middle East and North Africa and averting attempts at destabilizing the situation.".....snip~
    appreciate this find MMC, I just do not trust the Russians for "stability" in the ME, anymore then I do the US/NATO in Libya..

    Times change I suppose. and surely Egypt can make it's own decisions/partners

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We shouldn't be arming any country other than ourselves.
    I don't have any problem selling arms, we buy tank parts from Germany.
    I do have major problems with interventionist WARS, but a robust hi tech military, that is used for defense... can actually deter skirmishes ..(.I know I know.. counterintuitive)

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Eorhn that's what the minister of Egypt is talking about.


    Egypt: FM - Russia-Egypt 2+2 Talks Allow Coordinating Positions On Int'l, Regional Issues

    "Russian hospitality is sufficient reason as it is for this visit, but I would like also to note that this format of talks involving the foreign and defense ministers reflects fully positions of negotiating parties on regional and international issues," Fahmy said.

    Fahmy noted that Egypt and Russia have many issues, which should be discussed at talks on Thursday, including international problems, primarily the situation in the Middle East as well as different aspects of bilateral relations, including ties in trade and economic, cultural and humanitarian spheres and development of military-technical cooperation.

    The minister also noted that ongoing meetings in Moscow "reflect Egypt's support to Russia's position over preserving stability in the region of the Middle East and North Africa and averting attempts at destabilizing the situation.".....snip~

    allAfrica.com: Egypt: FM - Russia-Egypt 2+2 Talks Allow Coordinating Positions On Int'l, Regional Issues
    Obama is such a trusted ally in international circles, everyone is running to the Russians at their first opportunity. Yet more failures by this president and this administration.

    So much for the reset with Russia and the world wide apology tour which should have "changed the image of America around the world" and made the U.S. "safer and stronger." Obama and Kerry think they know the world and know what they are doing, but it's as far from the truth as you could possibly get.

    Not only utter failure on the domestic front but utter failure on the foreign policy front. This administration is a failure, and there's 3 years left.

    I'm just frustrated as hell with this track record of continual failure and continual dodging and continual lying from this administration and this president. The US electorate deserve better than this. They deserve results. Not this. crap.

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I don't have any problem selling arms, we buy tank parts from Germany.
    I do have major problems with interventionist WARS, but a robust hi tech military, that is used for defense... can actually deter skirmishes ..(.I know I know.. counterintuitive)
    No I agree. As I said, we should arm ourselves. We should invest heavily into military research and development in the hopes we never have to use it. But humanity isn't at the point yet where we can all trust each other. I just don't think we should be arming others or involved in interventionist wars. The best offense if oft a great defense, and we should have the best. Just be limited in use and not involve ourselves heavily in the military affairs of others.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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