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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I agree. NATO has been around since the end of WWII and you can't get anything more permanent that that as far as alliances are concerned.
    Or more permanent in its menacing, as in Libya most recently, like annata pointed out.
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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Absolutely great point Pero!
    Thank You, there are times I wish we would just keep our nose out of other countries business. This from a life long military man.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Or more permanent in its menacing, as in Libya most recently, like annata pointed out.
    Exactly, enough is enough. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. Khadaffi, Aasad perhaps, maybe. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Thank You, there are times I wish we would just keep our nose out of other countries business. This from a life long military man.
    Hey, some people learn. Good for you!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Obama is such a trusted ally in international circles, everyone is running to the Russians at their first opportunity. Yet more failures by this president and this administration.

    So much for the reset with Russia and the world wide apology tour which should have "changed the image of America around the world" and made the U.S. "safer and stronger." Obama and Kerry think they know the world and know what they are doing, but it's as far from the truth as you could possibly get.

    Not only utter failure on the domestic front but utter failure on the foreign policy front. This administration is a failure, and there's 3 years left.

    I'm just frustrated as hell with this track record of continual failure and continual dodging and continual lying from this administration and this president. The US electorate deserve better than this. They deserve results. Not this. crap.
    Russia is no longer a Superpower but Putin has managed to convince everyone it is. America is a Superpower but Obama has managed to convince everyone it isn't.

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    And it's not necessarily a bad thing.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hey, some people learn. Good for you!
    My friend, a lot of people think military men like/love war, most don't. They hate it, but do their job. The military's job is to break things and kill people, we are really good at that. But we are lousy at nation building, that is something the military has never been trained on. That is a job for diplomats and the police. You want us to win a way, okay we will do that and we did so fairly easy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But we aren't equipped to nation build. That is the stark truth.
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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Speaking of Russia.


    And yet, the country retains a massive nuclear arsenal, has a permanent seat in the UN Security Council, and remains key in the resolution of international disputes.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/893137.stm
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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    My friend, a lot of people think military men like/love war, most don't. They hate it, but do their job. The military's job is to break things and kill people, we are really good at that. But we are lousy at nation building, that is something the military has never been trained on. That is a job for diplomats and the police. You want us to win a way, okay we will do that and we did so fairly easy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But we aren't equipped to nation build. That is the stark truth.
    I don't disagree with that, though I fail to see how it speaks to my comment on your earlier comment.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia/Egypt - close military deal; closer ties at expense of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    My friend, a lot of people think military men like/love war, most don't. They hate it, but do their job. The military's job is to break things and kill people, we are really good at that. But we are lousy at nation building, that is something the military has never been trained on. That is a job for diplomats and the police. You want us to win a way, okay we will do that and we did so fairly easy in Iraq and Afghanistan. But we aren't equipped to nation build. That is the stark truth.

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