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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Yep, I fear we did more harm to secularism and womens equality in the Middle East as a whole than any imagined good we had hoped for. It does seem most noticeable in Iraq which though run by a tyrant, still was pretty secular and women were in top positions, top educations, seemingly as equal as here if not more.

    Want to know the really sad part?


    Apparently it takes a ruthless brutal dictator to make a Middle Eastern country treat women decently.


    With the possible exception of Turkey, which is sort of half-European.

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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    At the moment, any non-violent avenue seems well blocked by the money invested in and by the 1%ers.
    those in power only have power because we give consent. protest and bring the voice of the people to the front door of congress.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Want to know the really sad part?


    Apparently it takes a ruthless brutal dictator to make a Middle Eastern country treat women decently.


    With the possible exception of Turkey, which is sort of half-European.
    Yes, that is sad.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    those in power only have power because we give consent. protest and bring the voice of the people to the front door of congress.
    That dream world you live in.... yeah maybe somewhere in our history, but additionally throughout are times when very the very few run our government, our lives, our futures and once again here we are, and Citizen's United has made it all legal. Our pols be they at virtually any level will ultimately, it seems, cave to the 1%.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    That dream world you live in.... yeah maybe somewhere in our history, but additionally throughout are times when very the very few run our government, our lives, our futures and once again here we are, and Citizen's United has made it all legal. Our pols be they at virtually any level will ultimately, it seems, cave to the 1%.
    the polliticans can only get into office by being voted in, and if the people show no support then the politicans have no power
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the polliticans can only get into office by being voted in, and if the people show no support then the politicans have no power
    Again you live in a dream world if you think that your pol isn't going to change his/her tune to whatever the 1% tell him/her to change it to upon being in office. Just look at Obama. He campaigns great, then gives over everything to banksters, insurers, ag, oil, and so on. Sorry, wish you were right, but you're not. Not today anyway, perhaps things will change again.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Again you live in a dream world if you think that your pol isn't going to change his/her tune to whatever the 1% tell him/her to change it to upon being in office. Just look at Obama. He campaigns great, then gives over everything to banksters, insurers, ag, oil, and so on. Sorry, wish you were right, but you're not. Not today anyway, perhaps things will change again.
    It is far worse to give up with trying. i know the rules of the political game but i refuse to let them fill me with cynicism.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    It is far worse to give up with trying. i know the rules of the political game but i refuse to let them fill me with cynicism.
    Did anyone suggest giving up trying? I don't recall that. Throwing up some strawmen, eh? However to believe your pol is going to honor his campaign ideals will only work if you vote for someone whose ideals line up with what the 1% want.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Did anyone suggest giving up trying? I don't recall that. Throwing up some strawmen, eh? However to believe your pol is going to honor his campaign ideals will only work if you vote for someone whose ideals line up with what the 1% want.
    the money of the 1% cannot buy every politician, i may be cynical about politicians but i still believe some politicians vote for what their constituents want and not what the monied interests want.
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