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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

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    While true, I'd rather that we just act appropriately and diplomatically instead of engaging in gross interventionism to feed the power and wealth of the Republocrats and the Corporations they support.
    Certainly I'd rather as well. However, it doesn't change the fact that we're already deserving of another 9/11 or worse. Now will it happen? Probably not, but if/when it does, I'll have no doubt that we deserve it as a nation even if the individuals harmed didn't. But y'know, seems our government wants us to forgive their collateral damage, so I'll find a way to forgive those that righteously attack us for the ineffective bullies we've become.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Certainly I'd rather as well. However, it doesn't change the fact that we're already deserving of another 9/11 or worse. Now will it happen? Probably not, but if/when it does, I'll have no doubt that we deserve it as a nation even if the individuals harmed didn't. But y'know, seems our government wants us to forgive their collateral damage, so I'll find a way to forgive those that righteously attack us for the ineffective bullies we've become.
    The problem is another 9/11 will just fuel more of the same crap. Government would love another 9/11. Whip up some fear, excuse even further breeches of our freedom, engage in more hostilities, etc. We may deserve it, but ain't no one gonna end up in a better spot if it happens.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The problem is another 9/11 will just fuel more of the same crap. Government would love another 9/11. Whip up some fear, excuse even further breeches of our freedom, engage in more hostilities, etc. We may deserve it, but ain't no one gonna end up in a better spot if it happens.
    No doubt, that's the problem with bullies. I have no doubt we will be taken down someday, but not likely in my lifetime. It will most likely be a cyberattack of some sort, imo, that will put the country in such chaos that traditional or even drone war will be effectively impossible.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    No doubt, that's the problem with bullies. I have no doubt we will be taken down someday, but not likely in my lifetime. It will most likely be a cyberattack of some sort, imo, that will put the country in such chaos that traditional or even drone war will be effectively impossible.
    Nothing is infinitely stable, not even the US. But in terms of the Republic, it's already been taken down. We are witnessing the death throes of the Republic now, the continued assault against our freedom and liberty perpetrated by the biggest terrorist organization of them all....the government.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

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    Nothing is infinitely stable, not even the US. But in terms of the Republic, it's already been taken down. We are witnessing the death throes of the Republic now, the continued assault against our freedom and liberty perpetrated by the biggest terrorist organization of them all....the government.

    Then it will take the actions of the american people to save ourselves.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Then it will take the actions of the american people to save ourselves.
    Indeed, but good luck on that front. We're fat, lazy, and stupid. It's just as the end days of the Roman Empire, except we never got an official empire.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Then it will take the actions of the american people to save ourselves.
    At the moment, any non-violent avenue seems well blocked by the money invested in and by the 1%ers.
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course it's worse. Saddam ruled by fear and oppression, but he kept things orderly. Not to say it justifies letting him be, but it shows that outside aggressors cannot make a country better through military action and good intentions. We never should have been there and we're still paying the price for our interventionism.
    Absolutely, and to the op, so are Iraqi citizens, still!
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I'm less concerned with the price "we're" paying and more concerned with the price of those whose country we f'ed up. We deserve what we get, might get, imo, they really didn't/don't.
    So well stated!!
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    Re: Smith on Iraqi Christians: 'Life appears to be worse now' then under Saddam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Certainly I'd rather as well. However, it doesn't change the fact that we're already deserving of another 9/11 or worse. Now will it happen? Probably not, but if/when it does, I'll have no doubt that we deserve it as a nation even if the individuals harmed didn't. But y'know, seems our government wants us to forgive their collateral damage, so I'll find a way to forgive those that righteously attack us for the ineffective bullies we've become.
    Ay caramba! You almost certainly will be attacked as anti-American, and invited to leave!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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