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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes, in certain states.
    I suppose Illinois is one of them then.

    I know in the reset of the states once their parole is up they can vote - their debt to society has been paid at that point.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I suppose Illinois is one of them then.

    I know in the reset of the states once their parole is up they can vote - their debt to society has been paid at that point.
    Here are the states that are said to prohibit voting for life after release.

    Alabama
    Arizona
    Deleware
    Florida
    Iowa
    Kentucky
    Mississippi
    Nevada
    Tennessee
    Virginia
    Wyoming

    http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.r...ourceID=000286

    Not an altogether surprising list.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 02-14-14 at 04:17 PM.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Here are the states that are said to prohibit voting for life after release.

    Alabama
    Arizona
    Deleware
    Florida
    Iowa
    Kentucky
    Mississippi
    Nevada
    Tennessee
    Virginia
    Wyoming

    Not an altogether surprising list.
    Yeah while the individual is on parole. Once that former inmate is off his parole he is no more or no less a citizen than you or I.

    Back when I was 18-19 I got into a little trouble and had to do some prison time, but I can vote and do so in every election. Of course my troubles ended 15-16 years ago, and I haven't done anything wrong since.

    Also, these voting restrictions only apply to felons (which is stupid and an entirely different discussion all together)...

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah while the individual is on parole. Once that former inmate is off his parole he is no more or no less a citizen than you or I.

    Back when I was 18-19 I got into a little trouble and had to do some prison time, but I can vote and do so in every election. Of course my troubles ended 15-16 years ago, and I haven't done anything wrong since.

    Also, these voting restrictions only apply to felons (which is stupid and an entirely different discussion all together)...
    According to that site the people in those states can't vote again...ever.

    glad to hear you got yourself straightened out.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    According to that site the people in those states can't vote again...ever.

    glad to hear you got yourself straightened out.
    Well, I'm going to do some research on that later...

    Also, I went to prison for a crime I didn't commit under duress..

    I got caught with small amounts of pot many times, to make a long story short one of my friends at the time committed a semi-serious crime that was a felony. The DA threatened to put me in prison for 10 years on the weed or I could plead to an accessory to the crime my friend committed (which I had nothing to do with) and take 18 months - In reality the DA had no basis to claim any of that but I was a dumb naive kid and chose the 18 moths over the 10 years for being caught with a few bags of pot over the summer.

    I'm not a criminal, never was a criminal and at the very worst I was a teenager that liked to get high (as if that is somehow abnormal).. I was certainly guilty of hanging out with the wrong crowed.... At any rate the kid who did commit the felony died in a car accident several years later so.... Karma.

    If you want to know what the felony was? my idiot friend threw a half stick of dynamite into a toilet at a house we were partying at and caused a certain amount of damage that constituted felony charges.

    So there was really nothing in my life to turn around other than to be more vigilant when choosing my friends.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    According to that site the people in those states can't vote again...ever.

    glad to hear you got yourself straightened out.
    Specifically, which states forbid a felon from ever voting again?

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Specifically, which states forbid a felon from ever voting again?
    Are you kidding?

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Are you kidding?
    No, which ones specifically have no way possible for an ex-felon to restore their voter eligibility?

    I ask because every state on the list you provided has procedure to allow an ex-felon to renew their status.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    No, which ones specifically have no way possible for an ex-felon to restore their voter eligibility?

    I ask because every state on the list you provided has procedure to allow an ex-felon to renew their status.
    I know, I saw that. Kentucky's is my favorite:

    Kentucky - The ability to vote can be restored only when the Governor approves an application for an executive pardon from an individual convicted of a felony after completion of his/her sentence.
    I'm sure reinstating one ex-felon's voting privileges is right at the top of the governor's to-do list.

    Wait, hold on, Mississippi's is even better:

    To regain the ability to vote, an individual, after completion of his/her sentence, must go to his/her state representative and convince them to personally author a bill restoring the vote to that individual. Both houses of the legislature must then pass the bill. Re-enfranchisement can also be granted directly by the governor.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 02-14-14 at 06:14 PM.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I know, I saw that. Kentucky's is my favorite:



    I'm sure reinstating one ex-felon's voting privileges is right at the top of the governor's to-do list.
    The governor's staff handles and it appears to be a rather routine action. Much depends on the prosecutor's opinion.
    http://www.kftc.org/sites/default/fi...ghts_in_ky.pdf

    Yeah, some make it hard but not impossible. Mississippi appears to be the closest to impossible. But most indicate certain violent felonies disqualify you. Most have a process to restore your voting eligibility. As a last resort....you can move to state that has no restriction.

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