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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Traditional Christianity claims to be the religion of a Loving God. The God of the NEW Testament, not the God of the Old Testament. As I said to several clergy members.... "I am not Job, to be slapped in the face repeatedly and expected to say 'Thank you God, may I have another?' with a smile." I understand that the true reward is on the other side of Eternity, but there has to be some sort of if not reward, at least a lack of repeated "slaps in the face" on this side of Eternity to help one get through life.

    That's how I came to understand that the Gods don't give a **** about us as individuals. It's simply a matter of how do our Souls deal with the crap that is tossed at us on a daily basis. Do they continue to follow the narrow path, or do they decide to do what they Want rather than what they Should.
    That (bold) is an ignorant load of crap. And you don't understand the Book of Job.

    And, please, spare us the "Wood Faeries and The Fates (who can defy Gods) are real" routine. It doesn't add any credence to ignorance.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Traditional Christianity claims to be the religion of a Loving God. The God of the NEW Testament, not the God of the Old Testament. As I said to several clergy members.... "I am not Job, to be slapped in the face repeatedly and expected to say 'Thank you God, may I have another?' with a smile." I understand that the true reward is on the other side of Eternity, but there has to be some sort of if not reward, at least a lack of repeated "slaps in the face" on this side of Eternity to help one get through life.

    That's how I came to understand that the Gods don't give a **** about us as individuals. It's simply a matter of how do our Souls deal with the crap that is tossed at us on a daily basis. Do they continue to follow the narrow path, or do they decide to do what they Want rather than what they Should.
    One and the same God inspired both Testaments. How do you know that God didn't protect you from graver evils during your life, or your father from evils during his life? Also, God is entirely rational and omniscient, if he deems that it will be better for the ultimate good for a person if they are allowed to suffer for the time being, this does not mean that he doesn't love them (love means to will the good of another). Look at what happened to Job after the end of his trials.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

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    One and the same God inspired both Testaments.
    A God who went SOFT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    How do you know that God didn't protect you from graver evils during your life, or your father from evils during his life? Also, God is entirely rational and omniscient, if he deems that it will be better for the ultimate good for a person if they are allowed to suffer for the time being, this does not mean that he doesn't love them (love means to will the good of another). Look at what happened to Job after the end of his trials.
    Sorry, I don't buy it. I'm not going to tell anyone else they shouldn't believe it, or any other personal religious belief, but for me it just rings entirely hollow.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    A God who went SOFT.



    Sorry, I don't buy it. I'm not going to tell anyone else they shouldn't believe it, or any other personal religious belief, but for me it just rings entirely hollow.
    He is eternal. He didn't go soft but intended all along to do as he did.

    How does it ring hollow?

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    He is eternal. He didn't go soft but intended all along to do as he did.
    Then he's a hypocrite. In fact he's the divine example of this nation.... lots of laws and either no enforcement or no real penalty for those who break the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    How does it ring hollow?
    Just based upon my personal life experiences.... If the things I've had to deal with are the LESSER of the evils, I'd have been better off if I'd just died and been done with it.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Then he's a hypocrite. In fact he's the divine example of this nation.... lots of laws and either no enforcement or no real penalty for those who break the rules.



    Just based upon my personal life experiences.... If the things I've had to deal with are the LESSER of the evils, I'd have been better off if I'd just died and been done with it.
    Damnation is a quite significant penalty.

    Is there no one in the world worse off than you?

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Damnation is a quite significant penalty.
    Except that all you have to do is say you're sorry and that all goes away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Is there no one in the world worse off than you?
    I don't care about anyone else, just myself.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Except that all you have to do is say you're sorry and that all goes away.
    Exactly.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As for "state's rights," this is just code for "the states having the right to discriminate against its citizens."
    Cool deal, can you inform me of what other things i say are code. Thank god you know what I really mean by words I and others say, because otherwise what would we do if you weren't here to inform us what we really mean. Thank god for your mutant powers of mind reading!

    And yeah...states and the federal government are allowed to discriminate in various ways towards various groups of people. Happens all the time.

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    Re: 6 Million Americans Without a Voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Exactly.
    Sorry but that doesn't work for me. Never has and never will. It's totally contrary to the way I see any level of Justice in the world.

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