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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

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    I find it kinda funny that the Western populace is slowly becoming as ignorant and a conspiracy-minded as what's commonly considered the most ignorant and paranoid large swath of people in the world: Arabs. I think it's because they just don't spend much time actually learning about the world. Like they love reality TV and football (American or otherwise), and they see the news but don't really understand it. They can't fully grasp these "real" things, so what do they do? They claim it's "fake" in an effort to marginalize it and excuse their lack of understanding it. "Oh that? No, I don't know the difference between Hekmatyar and Massoud, but what does it even matter? It's all made up anyway! Did you know that they didn't even really kill bin Laden!"

    Claiming it's not real is a good way to hand wave their ignorance of world matters away. A way to stick their heads in the sand while watching commercials or waiting for Netflix to load. I have no problem with this, but we need to slowly forge a way in which these people don't have a voice in serious matters. It's a shame that some of them vote. Thank god they rarely get into positions of power, though- our only saving grace.

    But lol seriously: it's 2014 and people in this thread have been claiming Osama bin Laden never existed or had died long before the raid in Abbottabad! Who are you guys? So ignorant, and I mean that using the actual definition of the word. Just so...uninformed and uneducated. Come on, if you don't know about something, just don't talk about it. I don't go on arguing about the best way to fix a roof or to play cricket or set up lights for a movie, because I don't know. But people will delve into world politics with absolutely no understanding of it. Hilarious.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I find it kinda funny that the Western populace is slowly becoming as ignorant and a conspiracy-minded as what's commonly considered the most ignorant and paranoid large swath of people in the world: Arabs. I think it's because they just don't spend much time actually learning about the world. Like they love reality TV and football (American or otherwise), and they see the news but don't really understand it. They can't fully grasp these "real" things, so what do they do? They claim it's "fake" in an effort to marginalize it and excuse their lack of understanding it. "Oh that? No, I don't know the difference between Hekmatyar and Massoud, but what does it even matter? It's all made up anyway! Did you know that they didn't even really kill bin Laden!"

    Claiming it's not real is a good way to hand wave their ignorance of world matters away. A way to stick their heads in the sand while watching commercials or waiting for Netflix to load. I have no problem with this, but we need to slowly forge a way in which these people don't have a voice in serious matters. It's a shame that some of them vote. Thank god they rarely get into positions of power, though- our only saving grace.

    But lol seriously: it's 2014 and people in this thread have been claiming Osama bin Laden never existed or had died long before the raid in Abbottabad! Who are you guys? So ignorant, and I mean that using the actual definition of the word. Just so...uninformed and uneducated. Come on, if you don't know about something, just don't talk about it. I don't go on arguing about the best way to fix a roof or to play cricket or set up lights for a movie, because I don't know. But people will delve into world politics with absolutely no understanding of it. Hilarious.
    Thats funny that you stick to the polarized extremes only and put your stamp on it. Not really haha funny more huhhuh? funny. I trust a youtube video more than the average news story cuz usually there is a damn video of the topic or event at hand. News will be like, "3 gunmen left the mall. Not sure how many people total were in the mall. Authorities now have all the footage." And you never see any proof from the event again. Just made up some hypothetical crap in qoutes but I think you get the jist.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I find it kinda funny that the Western populace is slowly becoming as ignorant and a conspiracy-minded as what's commonly considered the most ignorant and paranoid large swath of people in the world: Arabs. I think it's because they just don't spend much time actually learning about the world. Like they love reality TV and football (American or otherwise), and they see the news but don't really understand it. They can't fully grasp these "real" things, so what do they do? They claim it's "fake" in an effort to marginalize it and excuse their lack of understanding it. "Oh that? No, I don't know the difference between Hekmatyar and Massoud, but what does it even matter? It's all made up anyway! Did you know that they didn't even really kill bin Laden!"

    Claiming it's not real is a good way to hand wave their ignorance of world matters away. A way to stick their heads in the sand while watching commercials or waiting for Netflix to load. I have no problem with this, but we need to slowly forge a way in which these people don't have a voice in serious matters. It's a shame that some of them vote. Thank god they rarely get into positions of power, though- our only saving grace.

    But lol seriously: it's 2014 and people in this thread have been claiming Osama bin Laden never existed or had died long before the raid in Abbottabad! Who are you guys? So ignorant, and I mean that using the actual definition of the word. Just so...uninformed and uneducated. Come on, if you don't know about something, just don't talk about it. I don't go on arguing about the best way to fix a roof or to play cricket or set up lights for a movie, because I don't know. But people will delve into world politics with absolutely no understanding of it. Hilarious.

    Yeah preach it brother.The goberment is one trustworthy organization.If they say they are not spying on us then we should believe them.If they say the world is flat and that they **** roses then we should believe them. If they say they are not doing anything wrong then we should believe them. So we should believe them when they say they killed Bin Laden even though there is no photographs or video,even though we got picture of Saddam's sons,video of Saddam's execution, a video of that one dead terrorist who did not know how to operate a m249.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Thats funny that you stick to the polarized extremes only and put your stamp on it. Not really haha funny more huhhuh? funny.
    Huh?

    I trust a youtube video more than the average news story cuz usually there is a damn video of the topic or event at hand. News will be like, "3 gunmen left the mall. Not sure how many people total were in the mall. Authorities now have all the footage." And you never see any proof from the event again. Just made up some hypothetical crap in qoutes but I think you get the jist.
    Then maybe read something? Why you'd expect to get analysis from either youtube or cable news is beyond me.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yeah preach it brother.The goberment is one trustworthy organization.If they say they are not spying on us then we should believe them.If they say the world is flat and that they **** roses then we should believe them. If they say they are not doing anything wrong then we should believe them. So we should believe them when they say they killed Bin Laden even though there is no photographs or video,even though we got picture of Saddam's sons,video of Saddam's execution, a video of that one dead terrorist who did not know how to operate a m249.
    lol you think this is about blindly believing the government? Do you read anything? Have you ever read a book about Iraq or Afghanistan? About al Qaeda or counterterrorism or anything? If so, what?

    Ignorance isn't terminal, ya know. You guys can...learn stuff...become informed. You could do it if you really wanted to lol.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What gives you the 'right'? Is there some article of the constitution of which I am not aware that gives us the right to see photographs of dead terrorists? And who is the 'we' of which you speak? You aren't speaking for me - or frankly anybody I know.
    Why should our tax dollars be used and then we cant even see the results of the mission? Especially when this man is responsible for the murdering of thousands of Americans?


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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Well, lets cut the bull****, shall we? The reason you want to see the picture is because you don't actually believe he was killed, right?

    And no, we don't have any 'right' to see the results of the mission. Our tax dollars are used for a lot of things, and I don't think we have the 'right' to see the results. Our tax dollars were used to break the Japanese Naval Code during the Second World War. Is it your position that the taxpayers of 1940's America had the 'right' to see the decoded Japanese messages?
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Why should our tax dollars be used and then we cant even see the results of the mission? Especially when this man is responsible for the murdering of thousands of Americans?
    Ahhh! You weren't being facetious! looool
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yeah preach it brother.The goberment is one trustworthy organization.If they say they are not spying on us then we should believe them.If they say the world is flat and that they **** roses then we should believe them. If they say they are not doing anything wrong then we should believe them. So we should believe them when they say they killed Bin Laden even though there is no photographs or video,even though we got picture of Saddam's sons,video of Saddam's execution, a video of that one dead terrorist who did not know how to operate a m249.
    No, it's perfectly rational for any citizen of the United States to disbelieve everything the government says. Moon landing? Hah! Faked! 9/11? Did that really happen? Faked!

    Saddam was executed by the Iraqi government who wanted to show it for political purposes. His son's dead bodies were shown so that the people of Iraq would be convinced they were actually dead and could stop fearing them. Your analogy is stupid.

    This constant trashing of your own government is a dangerous thing. And it's dumb.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, it's perfectly rational for any citizen of the United States to disbelieve everything the government says.
    Seeing how governments are the most untrustworthy entity on earth then everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.


    Moon landing? Hah! Faked! 9/11? Did that really happen? Faked!
    There is video of the moon landing and the only way I will believe that 911 was fake is if truffers fly some planes into some similar buildings and those buildings don't fall.

    Saddam was executed by the Iraqi government who wanted to show it for political purposes. His son's dead bodies were shown so that the people of Iraq would be convinced they were actually dead and could stop fearing them. Your analogy is stupid.
    My analogy is not stupid.When some scumbags were killed their pictures and video were shown to the public.Osama Bin Laden is one of the most wanted man on earth.His photo should have been officially released or "accidentally released" if he was actually killed.

    This constant trashing of your own government is a dangerous thing. And it's dumb.
    What is dangerous and dumb is believing everything your government tells you without evidence, not only that but it is ****ing retarded as well.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how governments are the most untrustworthy entity on earth then everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.




    There is video of the moon landing and the only way I will believe that 911 was fake is if truffers fly some planes into some similar buildings and those buildings don't fall.



    My analogy is not stupid.When some scumbags were killed their pictures and video were shown to the public.Osama Bin Laden is one of the most wanted man on earth.His photo should have been officially released or "accidentally released" if he was actually killed.



    What is dangerous and dumb is believing everything your government tells you without evidence, not only that but it is ****ing retarded as well.
    But none of this has anything to do with DA GUBMINT. Like...you could do the research...
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