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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The SEAL team didn't all die. One of them wrote a book, for crying out loud.
    Or did he!?
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Dead?
    I'm saying you could make up a story that bin Laden died of natural causes and our government staged an elaborate raid on a random compound in order to claim credit for bin Laden's death and the existing evidence would back it up.



    Obviously anyone could make up any story, actually proving that story is another matter.

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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Obviously anyone could make up any story, actually proving that story is another matter.
    Well, again, that is my point! We are rapidly running out of evidence to prove the official report!
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: CNN: PENTAGON ILLEGALLY DESTROYED PHOTOS OF DEAD OSAMA BIN LADEN - YouTube

    Admiral McGraven, "All Photos should be turned over to the CIA, and all should be destroyed". Is this a violation of the law? This does seem ridiculous? Why destroy them? This is not the way the law should be. How many rules were broken with this?
    We need to pressure the intelligence community and the Pentagon with this.
    Yeah - well maybe the government should sell them on Ebay, they might go for high.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    From day one the media and many Americans wanted the photos of OBL released.

    This is breaking news.

    Well Judicial Watch comes through again.


    Uncovered by JW: Top Pentagon Leader Ordered Destruction of bin Laden Death Photos

    Judicial Watch Uncovers Email Revealing Top Pentagon Leader Ordered Destruction of bin Laden Death Photos

    (Washington, DC) – >" Judicial Watch announced today that on January 31, 2014, it received documents from the Department of Defense (Pentagon) revealing that within hours of its filing a May 13, 2011, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking photos of the deceased Osama bin Laden, U.S. Special Operations Commander, Admiral William McRaven ordered his subordinates to “destroy” any photos they may have had “immediately.” Judicial Watch had filed a FOIA request for the photos 11 days earlier.

    The McRaven email, addressed to “Gentlemen,” instructs:

    One particular item that I want to emphasize is photos; particularly UBLs remains. At this point – all photos should have been turned over to the CIA; if you still have them destroy them immediately or get them to the [redacted].

    According to the Pentagon documents, McRaven sent his email on “Friday, May 13, 2011 5:09 PM.” The documents do not detail what documents, if any, were destroyed in response to the McRaven directive. The Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit seeking the documents was filed in the United States Court for the District of Columbia only hours earlier. Judicial Watch also announced the filing at a morning press conference.

    On May 2, Judicial Watch had filed a FOIA request with the Defense Department seeking “all photographs and/or video recordings of Usama (Osama) Bin Laden taken during and/or after the U.S. military operation in Pakistan on or about May 1, 2011.” Federal law contains broad prohibitions against the “concealment, removal, or mutilation generally” of government records.

    The records containing the McRaven “destroy them immediately” email were produced as a result of a June 7, 2013, FOIA request and a subsequent lawsuit against the Defense Department for records relating to reports of the 2011 McRaven purge directive. McRaven’s order was first mentioned at the end of a 2011 draft reportby the Pentagon’s inspector general (IG) examining whether the Obama administration gave special access to Hollywood executives planning the film “Zero Dark Thirty.” According the draft report, “ADM McRaven also directed that the names and photographs associated with the raid not be released. This effort included purging the combatant command’s system of all records related to the operation and providing these records to another Government Agency.” The reference to the document purge did not appear in the final IG report.

    The move by McRaven to purge the photos appears to have come, at least in part, in response to aggressive efforts by Judicial Watch to obtain images of the deceased bin Laden that President Obama, in a rewrite of federal open records law, had refused to disclose. In addition to its May 2, 2011, FOIA request with the Pentagon Judicial Watch filed an identical request on May 3, 2011, with the CIA. When neither the Defense Department nor the CIA complied with the FOIA requests, Judicial Watch, in June 2011, filed FOIA lawsuits against both agencies. In the course of the litigation, the Pentagon claimed that it had “no records responsive to plaintiff’s request.” ..."<

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    Order: ‘Destroy’ bin Laden photos

    >"
    A senior operations officer in the U.S. military ordered for photos of Osama bin Laden’s corpse to be destroyed 11 days after he was killed, an email released Monday by a conservative legal group shows.

    Judicial Watch released the document Monday after obtaining it through a Freedom of Information Act request.

    On May 2, 2011, the American Navy Seal team shot and killed bin Laden at a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Judicial Watch quickly filed a FOIA request with the Pentagon and the CIA seeking photos of bin Laden’s body, which have never been released. The Associated Press says it had also filed a request with the Pentagon asking for the photos."<

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    U.S. Military Leaders Tight-Lipped On Destruction Of Osama Bin Laden Death Pics
    Pentagon leaders are keeping quiet on why the head of U.S. special forces ordered pictures of deceased al-Qaeda chieftain Osama bin Laden destroyed.
    U.S. Military Leaders Tight-Lipped On Destruction Of Osama Bin Laden Death Pics
    I also think the photos should have been released, I thought it was a mistake not to do so. But I'm not convinced that we have a right to see the photos given their nature and context as part of our foreign and security policy.

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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Islamofacists aren't going to hate us anymore than they already do, just because we offed UBL.

    They know we offed UBL; or do they? Do they already know that UBL was dead long before the raid on Abottabad?

    My point is, since the IF's are going to hate us anyway and they're going to come up with anti-American propaganda even if they have to lie; what difference does it make if we publicize the evidence of UBL's termination.
    You don't know that though. It isn't implausible to imagine that parading Bin Laden's corpse over the media would result in negative consequences for the United States either in terms of popular distaste in the places where we need support, by encouraging recruits to take the leap and join a militant organization, or even to coax groups into launching attacks that otherwise would not have been launched to avenge the humiliation.

    Again I think the benefits outweigh those potential consequences but dismissing them outright is irresponsible.

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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    I'll believe something is foul when someone produces evidence that shows someone lied, hid the truth, tried to mislead the public, or that he's really alive and hunkered down in fear of being discovered.

    Until someone provides proof otherwise - he's dead - and I really don't need to see photos (I'm puzzled as to why people are still hounding on this, too).
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    You don't know that though. It isn't implausible to imagine that parading Bin Laden's corpse over the media would result in negative consequences for the United States either in terms of popular distaste in the places where we need support, by encouraging recruits to take the leap and join a militant organization, or even to coax groups into launching attacks that otherwise would not have been launched to avenge the humiliation.

    Again I think the benefits outweigh those potential consequences but dismissing them outright is irresponsible.
    Anyone that would be pissed off about it already hates us and nothing we do will make them not hate us. That being the reality, it serves as a lame excuse to destroy the historical record of the most important kill we've scored since WW2; unless, of course, there's another motive for destroying the alleged evidence.
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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: CNN: PENTAGON ILLEGALLY DESTROYED PHOTOS OF DEAD OSAMA BIN LADEN - YouTube

    Admiral McGraven, "All Photos should be turned over to the CIA, and all should be destroyed". Is this a violation of the law? This does seem ridiculous? Why destroy them? This is not the way the law should be. How many rules were broken with this?
    We need to pressure the intelligence community and the Pentagon with this.
    These are photos you're never going to see anyway, why do you care?

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    Re: Cnn: Pentagon illegally destroyed photos of dead osama bin laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'll believe something is foul when someone produces evidence that shows someone lied, hid the truth, tried to mislead the public, or that he's really alive and hunkered down in fear of being discovered.

    Until someone provides proof otherwise - he's dead - and I really don't need to see photos (I'm puzzled as to why people are still hounding on this, too).
    I'm equally puzzled as to why someone would make such an effort to destroy all the evidence of the event.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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