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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    If Cruz wants to create another shutdown then more power to him. That's what his constituents want.
    And the other Senators should do as their voters want and not follow a freshman senator down the rat hole to ruin. Time to stop supporting the meaningless posturing of a presidential hopeful and git 'er done.

    As some are wont to say in Oklahoma, "yes young man we see your point, now put your hat back on and let's get to work"

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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    And the other Senators should do as their voters want and not follow a freshman senator down the rat hole to ruin. Time to stop supporting the meaningless posturing of a presidential hopeful and git 'er done.

    As some are wont to say in Oklahoma, "yes young man we see your point, now put your hat back on and let's get to work"
    We're already down the rat hole on our way to ruin having followed those other senators. And I think most of us would prefer they stop working on digging us deeper in that hole.

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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We're already down the rat hole on our way to ruin having followed those other senators. And I think most of us would prefer they stop working on digging us deeper in that hole.
    A shut down has never worked, not back when Newt did it, not a few months ago and certainly not now.

    There is a difference between cheap political theater and meaningful measures.

    Of course we want the debt to end, world peace and easy girls for all. But most of us know there is nothing easy to any of the three topics I just mentioned...

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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    A shut down has never worked, not back when Newt did it, not a few months ago and certainly not now.

    There is a difference between cheap political theater and meaningful measures.

    Of course we want the debt to end, world peace and easy girls for all. But most of us know there is nothing easy to any of the three topics I just mentioned...
    Worked? What are you talking about? A government shutdown isn't a solution, it's a consequence of the failure of the critters to do their jobs. Which in this case is to stop the digging of the hole that is smothering the nation.

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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He's relevant enough to make you start a thread. How many Cruz threads do you have now?
    I think maybe 2..


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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Of course noone "proposes" it, however, they keep the congress critters in there that DO continue it.
    Deficits are dropping significantly. Their rise and fall had more to do with the economy than anything congress has done. (although a couple wars certainly didn't help)
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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Worked? What are you talking about? A government shutdown isn't a solution, it's a consequence of the failure of the critters to do their jobs. Which in this case is to stop the digging of the hole that is smothering the nation.
    Worked as in got any meaningful result. Far from it it created more of a hole for the government to dig its self out of. Shutdowns don't follow debts like dawn follows night, it was political grandstand by the GOP, and a very rare one that hasn't changed a damn thing. It was a deliberate power play by the GOP three different times to try and force the Presidents at the time to knuckle under (though I'd opine it was just to play to the radical right base)

    This will not change the way things are done in DC, Cruz is doing nothing more than posturing for the 2016 elections. IF the freshman Senator from Texas was serious he'd walk into the Oval office with a significant number for reducing the military outlay, a serious proposal for social security and look Obama right in the eye and say, "now let me see you match this with cuts to what you hold near and dear Mr. President."

    But he has no serious intention of changing anything but the office he holds....

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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So let me get this straight. If I max my credit cards and the credit card company doesn't raise my limit, I'm a deadbeat because I won't have money to pay the bills. However, if the credit card company raises my limit and I use it to pay my bills, that is responsible?
    I didn't say it was responsible. However, raising the debt limit is necessary. Default would be catastrophic.
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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    I guess there's 'no such thing as too much debt'.
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    Re: Ted Cruz: 60 votes or else on debt ceiling

    Especially from 1981--1993 and 2001--2009, since we're all about blaming and revising on debate politics .
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