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Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas told a group of college students on Tuesday that race and gender relations are worse now than when he was a kid.

Speaking at Palm Beach Atlantic University in West Palm Beach, Florida, Thomas, the second black justice to serve on the court, lamented what he considers a society that is more 'conscious' of racial differences than it was when he grew up in segregated Georgia in the days before — and during — the civil rights era.

The conservative justice who, among other things, has written opinions supporting limits on Affirmative Action, added that 'the worst things that have been done to me, the worst things that have been said about me, by northern liberal elites, not by the people of Savannah, Georgia.'


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'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is too sensitive about race says Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas.

My comment.

A racist is someone who looks at people and events thru racial eyes. So-called "liberals" who analyze every word, event and statement in racial context are the worst racists in the country at this time. Most racist messages on this forum are posted by those who identity their lean as liberal or progressive, although not exclusively.

For example many self defined liberals and progressives foremost definite President Obama as "the black president," - that his foremost definition to THEM is his race. Therefore, since that is what is MOST important to them they assume is most important to everyone else. Therefore, those who oppose his actions and policies must be because of Obama's race - because they assume everyone shares their racial-measuring of people.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

A racist is someone who looks at people and events thru racial eyes. So-called "liberals" who analyze every word, event and statement in racial context are the worst racists in the country at this time. Most racist messages on this forum are posted by those who identity their lean as liberal or progressive, although not exclusively.

For example many see President Obama as "the black president," - that his foremost definition to THEM is his race. Therefore, since that is what is MOST important to them they assume is most important to everyone else. Therefore, those who oppose his actions and policies must be because of Obama's race assuming everyone shares their racial-measuring of people.

That's not the definition of "racist."


rac·ist
[rey-sist]
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.


rac·ism
[rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

But yeah yeah yeah, liberals are the Real Racists for pointing out when stuff is racist. :roll:
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I agree there is a difference between racism and racialism, but democrats are more racist as a whole. They are the ones that cannot be colorblind, and insist on quota systems. The use of a quota system for example implies that blacks cannot compete on an equal playing field, and that makes it a racist idea.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

That's not the definition of "racist."


rac·ist
[rey-sist]
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.


rac·ism
[rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

But yeah yeah yeah, liberals are the Real Racists for pointing out when stuff is racist. :roll:

You're not speaking Joko's language. Try multi-English. It's another kind of English that is another language. Unlike Spanish, French and Japanese which are all one language.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I agree there is a difference between racism and racialism, but democrats are more racist as a whole. They are the ones that cannot be colorblind, and insist on quota systems. The use of a quota system for example implies that blacks cannot compete on an equal playing field, and that makes it a racist idea.

These types of arguments on the right imply that Blacks and other minorities are a bunch of idiots. Otherwise why would the vast, vast, vast majority of them always vote Democrat? If the Democrats are the real racists then obviously minorities are stupid right? Perhaps the Democrats are not the racist party after all. I don't think the Republican Party is either, but there sure as hell is a lot more confederate flag waving rednecks voting Republican than Democrat.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I suspect that those northerners hate Thomas for what he believes and what he does, not for the color of his skin.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

People tend to vote what they perceive to be in their own best interest.


Perceive, to be.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I suspect that those northerners hate Thomas for what he believes and what he does, not for the color of his skin.
Bingo!!
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I suspect that those northerners hate Thomas for what he believes and what he does, not for the color of his skin.

Democrat plantation, Real Racists, Obama.

Just previewing the highlights of the inevitable conservative response.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

These types of arguments on the right imply that Blacks and other minorities are a bunch of idiots. Otherwise why would the vast, vast, vast majority of them always vote Democrat? If the Democrats are the real racists then obviously minorities are stupid right? Perhaps the Democrats are not the racist party after all. I don't think the Republican Party is either, but there sure as hell is a lot more confederate flag waving rednecks voting Republican than Democrat.

What an over extension of the argument. The Democrats are the ones that perpetuate poverty, rather than reforming the programs to enable people to rise out of poverty. Many minorities have similar base values as the Republican party but feel that that GOP doesn't care about them due to the GOP's marginalizing of their situation in life as well as the Democrat's painting the GOP as evil and hateful toward minorities. This has been debated here hundreds of times, and will not be agreed upon by either of us in a way that would put it to bed tonight.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

These types of arguments on the right imply that Blacks and other minorities are a bunch of idiots. Otherwise why would the vast, vast, vast majority of them always vote Democrat? If the Democrats are the real racists then obviously minorities are stupid right? Perhaps the Democrats are not the racist party after all. I don't think the Republican Party is either, but there sure as hell is a lot more confederate flag waving rednecks voting Republican than Democrat.
Y'know I think you're trying to be fair in that comment but you're not being realistic. Seriously look at the make up of the pols in the Republican party from local to federal level... dramatically white, and mostly men. As well go back and review the 2012 RNC convention.... Sorry, they can spout whatever they like, the proof is in the pudding so to speak. The pudding is very very white. If they aren't racist, what is it?
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

That's not the definition of "racist."


rac·ist
[rey-sist]
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.


rac·ism
[rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

But yeah yeah yeah, liberals are the Real Racists for pointing out when stuff is racist. :roll:

Yeah, next you'll be quoting some dictionary of how marriage is between a man and a woman to justify bigotry against gays the way you try to use that definition to claim racism isn't racism at all - thus your proof you aren't - a technical defense for your racist messages claiming "racism" is not the technically correct word.

And you now are also claiming that people who hate Obama because of his race aren't racists either because that does not mean they think his race if inferior. I say such people are racist. You claim people who hate people because of their race are not. No surprises. Naturally, you will defend racism for rather obvious reason of explaining how racism then doesn't attach to your messages.

Race supremacy is a different matter is only one aspect of "racism."
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I suspect that those northerners hate Thomas for what he believes and what he does, not for the color of his skin.

Although it's also hard to deny that many of those same Northeast individuals might be struck clueless as to why Thomas believes in what he does, given the collective experience of individuals with his color of skin.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I agree there is a difference between racism and racialism, but democrats are more racist as a whole. They are the ones that cannot be colorblind, and insist on quota systems. The use of a quota system for example implies that blacks cannot compete on an equal playing field, and that makes it a racist idea.

This isn't the only explanation for why a quota system would be beneficial. Another explanation might be the one that Liberals have actually been using. Why not address that argument instead of trying to paint people.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

Yeah, next you'll be quoting some dictionary of how marriage is between a man and a woman to justify bigotry against gays the way you try to use that definition to claim racism isn't racism at all - thus your proof you aren't - a technical defense for your racist messages claiming "racism" is not the technically correct word.

And you now are also claiming that people who hate Obama because of his race aren't racists either because that does not mean they think his race if inferior. I say such people are racist. You claim people who hate people because of their race are not. No surprises. Naturally, you will defend racism for rather obvious reason of explaining how racism then doesn't attach to your messages.

Race supremacy is a different matter is only one aspect of "racism."

I'm not defending racism. I'm saying that what you claim is racism isn't racism. You are attempting to change the definition of the word "racist" in order to call your political opposites racists. That's painfully dishonest.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

I agree there is a difference between racism and racialism, but democrats are more racist as a whole. They are the ones that cannot be colorblind, and insist on quota systems. The use of a quota system for example implies that blacks cannot compete on an equal playing field, and that makes it a racist idea.

Except their argument is that many African Americans cannot compete on an equal playing field, because various realms of society arbitrarily or systematically place them at a disadvantage. This would then insinuate that it isn't the quota system that is the barrier to "colorblindness" but rather it is the status-quo.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

Y'know I think you're trying to be fair in that comment but you're not being realistic. Seriously look at the make up of the pols in the Republican party from local to federal level... dramatically white, and mostly men. As well go back and review the 2012 RNC convention.... Sorry, they can spout whatever they like, the proof is in the pudding so to speak. The pudding is very very white. If they aren't racist, what is it?

Not as "racist" as African-Americans by your definition of racism.

There also a real risk of social isolation and worse in many settings if an African-American is Republican when it gets to ordinary folks.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

Although it's also hard to deny that many of those same Northeast individuals might be struck clueless as to why Thomas believes in what he does, given the collective experience of individuals with his color of skin.
True but that supports the idea that they are not racist since it basically says, if his views were different, ie more understandable given his perceived ethnic background, they would be likely to like him. Hence it isn't the color of his skin.
 
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Yeah that's right. He doesn't act or talk like an African-American is supposed to and they hate him for his refusal to act right for his race. You got it exactly correct. Hell, he forgets his race all the time and what is more despicable than that to white liberals?
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

True but that supports the idea that they are not racist since it basically says, if his views were different, ie more understandable given his perceived ethnic background, they would be likely to like him. Hence it isn't the color of his skin.

All he had to do was act black by doing and saying what white liberal democrats tell him. Then they'd like him.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

Not as "racist" as African-Americans by your definition of racism.

There also a real risk of social isolation and worse in many settings if an African-American is Republican when it gets to ordinary folks.
I don't have a definition of racism other than the actual definition. Secondly I've never said that AAs are not racist, some certainly are. And since most AAs are likely to vote Democratic over Republican, I'll even say that most racist AAs are Democratic, however it is clear that the Democratic Party is not the party of racist AAs, but the Republican party does appear to be the party of racist WM. I'm not sure who you think I am, but apparently it's not me who you're responding to.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

All he had to do was act black by doing and saying what white liberal democrats tell him. Then they'd like him.
Not at all, but of course for you to feel all drama queen indignant, you have to word it that way. Enjoy your hostile masterbation.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

Yeah that's right. He doesn't act or talk like an African-American is supposed to and they hate him for his refusal to act right for his race. You got it exactly correct. Hell, he forgets his race all the time and what is more despicable than that to white liberals?
Oh please, liberals would dislike him just as much if he was white, and for the same reasons they already do. Ridiculous that you would espouse such bull**** when it is clear that there are plenty of conservatives with his same views that liberals dislike. It is sitting right in front of you, and yet you go with this right wing claptrap explanation instead.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

Yeah that's right. He doesn't act or talk like an African-American is supposed to and they hate him for his refusal to act right for his race. You got it exactly correct. Hell, he forgets his race all the time and what is more despicable than that to white liberals?

Oh, bull****. Liberals don't dislike Clarence Thomas because he's some sort of "Uncle Tom." Liberals don't like Clarence Thomas because he votes in lockstep with Antonin Scalia, who liberals also don't like. Does that mean that liberals are biased against Italians because liberals don't like Fat Tony?

Liberals don't like Clarence Thomas because he rules against liberal interests.
 
Re: 'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is

True but that supports the idea that they are not racist since it basically says, if his views were different, ie more understandable given his perceived ethnic background, they would be likely to like him. Hence it isn't the color of his skin.

I wouldn't argue that those who strike against Thomas are necessarily racists (because most would likely not be), but I would suggest that the color of his skin nevertheless influences how he is portrayed by his some of his opponents. Turncoat metaphors are not at all uncommon.
 
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