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'Northern liberal elites treated me worse than the segregated South': America is too

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This is more than Clarence Thomas has said in all of the SCOTUS deliberations he has sat in on .
 
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Regardless it's true. That's the point
 
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That all may be true but it's not what I said. My point was the intolerance of some in the black community and the far left
about successful conservative blacks. They are seen as race traders or uncle toms. There should be no shame on people of any race who escape disadvantaged situation to become successful and prosperous. Yes I do agree some who do can become rather arrogant about their successful, some to such a degree that they become the very kind of person they grew up hating. There is nothing wrong with being black and conservative just like there is nothing wrong with being black and liberal. If it's wrong to hate Obama for his color if you're a conservative which some do then it is equally as wrong to hate justice Thomas for his color if you're a liberal which some do as well. It's the hypocrisy of it that's pisses off some conservatives. Just my opinion

The reason that conservative blacks are considered Uncle Toms or traitors by some people is that they ally themselves with the Republican party, which advocate positions that most people consider harmful to minorities and the poor, and contains many racists. Example: many libertarian-conservatives advocate for eliminating the elements of the 1964 Civil rights Act which prohibit private businesses from discriminating in employment and customer service. There is also the fact that many conservatives are self righteous tools with the "I did it, anyone can mentality" I described previously who tell poor people and minorities that they just need to try harder.
 
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The reason that conservative blacks are considered Uncle Toms or traitors by some people is that they ally themselves with the Republican party, which advocate positions that most people consider harmful to minorities and the poor, and contains many racists. Example: many libertarian-conservatives advocate for eliminating the elements of the 1964 Civil rights Act which prohibit private businesses from discriminating in employment and customer service. There is also the fact that many conservatives are self righteous tools with the "I did it, anyone can mentality" I described previously who tell poor people and minorities that they just need to try harder.

When the government establishes programs that provide benefits only as long as an individual only earns less than a specified amount, it has effectively discouraged those individuals from advancing themselves because as you earn more you lose the benefit(s). This has effectively enslaved generations of low income individuals as their incentive to advance is counteracted by the removal of those benefits as they advance, effectively leaving them no better off...
 
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Rep. Alvin Holmes, D-Montgomery, just said on House floor that he doesn't like Clarence Thomas because "he's married to a white woman."
5:35 PM - 11 Feb 2014 national review online

If a white conservative said that about a black woman married to a white man, the left would explode. Should I be offended by what he said? Where's the outrage from the liberal left about that comment against women? Or don't white conservative women count? Hypocrisy at its finest.

When I tried to verify this claim I could not find it in on any legitimate news site, only on right wing blogs. The closest I came was an article on examiner.com which reported that Holmes said "his comment about interracial marriage was misinterpreted. 'I said some people might say I didn't like him because he was married to a white woman.'......" The Examiner did not dispute Holmes' assertion about his intended meaning. http://www.examiner.com/article/ala...-uncle-tom-disparages-marriage-to-white-woman


Note that none of the stories about the comment include the original quote in its entirety. I'm sure there will be claims of a massive liberal dominated media conspiracy to protect Holmes, but I suspect that the lack of mainstream coverage is due to the fact that the claims about this comment are misrepresenting the intended message and context of the comment. (Remember that story about the agriculture dept. employee which misrepresented her meaning a couple of years ago?)
 
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The reason that conservative blacks are considered Uncle Toms or traitors by some people is that they ally themselves with the Republican party, which advocate positions that most people consider harmful to minorities and the poor, and contains many racists. Example: many libertarian-conservatives advocate for eliminating the elements of the 1964 Civil rights Act which prohibit private businesses from discriminating in employment and customer service. There is also the fact that many conservatives are self righteous tools with the "I did it, anyone can mentality" I described previously who tell poor people and minorities that they just need to try harder.[/


When you a kid who has no job or a min wage job because they didn't finish high school because they had 3 kids that they couldn't support then yeah it's their own damn fault. When you have a kid who has good grades but is in a crappy inner city school and the govt takes away vouchers that would let him go to a better school then I agree it's not their fault. Problem is most young poor minorities fault into the first group.
 
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When the government establishes programs that provide benefits only as long as an individual only earns less than a specified amount, it has effectively discouraged those individuals from advancing themselves because as you earn more you lose the benefit(s). This has effectively enslaved generations of low income individuals as their incentive to advance is counteracted by the removal of those benefits as they advance, effectively leaving them no better off...

:agree: It will be interesting to see how Obamacare fits into this. I can't see it improving the things you have pointed out in your post, although some may have insurance now where they didn't have it before. Time will tell.

Good evening, AP. :2wave: Good to see you again!
 
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:agree: It will be interesting to see how Obamacare fits into this. I can't see it improving the things you have pointed out in your post, although some may have insurance now where they didn't have it before. Time will tell.

Good evening, AP. :2wave: Good to see you again!

Good evening pg. Many who have "paid" for their insurance through the exchanges (some estimates are up to 90%) previously had health insurance. For many new to enroll, the disincentives to achieve individual prosperity have just increased...
 
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When the government establishes programs that provide benefits only as long as an individual only earns less than a specified amount, it has effectively discouraged those individuals from advancing themselves because as you earn more you lose the benefit(s). This has effectively enslaved generations of low income individuals as their incentive to advance is counteracted by the removal of those benefits as they advance, effectively leaving them no better off...

I think that is a legitimate concern that should be addressed. Unfortunately much of what I hear from some conservatives is stereotypical claims about lazy, crack smoking welfare moms with ten children. That type of talk benefits no one except for those who feel a need to feel superior to other people so they can ignore the problems that others face.
 
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I think that is a legitimate concern that should be addressed. Unfortunately much of what I hear from some conservatives is stereotypical claims about lazy, crack smoking welfare moms with ten children. That type of talk benefits no one except for those who feel a need to feel superior to other people so they can ignore the problems that others face.

Maybe all would be better served if those ten children of the crack smoking mom were removed from the home rather than providing increased benefits based on the amount of children born. We began a war on poverty in the sixties and it's been lost. It might be time to try another approach...
 
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