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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Keep laughing at "collateral damage" that has in fact occurred in this world, why would I think you ignorant? You who asked "How can you be killed along with your entire family at a wedding unless they're having a wedding in a country that either lacks the ability to extradite you" as if all accused were guilty until proven otherwise.
    I didn't say anything about being guilty? I asked how that would happen unless certain criteria were met. Then you brought up al-Awlaki, in which those criteria were met. So it had nothing to do with what I was saying. This is now the second time today that you're failing to have decent reading comprehension.

    You clearly do not support due process for American citizens, i'm done with the likes of you. You who not only have no problem with summary executions, but regard them as "good."
    lol? Okay? I'm glad you're done. I'm also glad the US government isn't done ignoring you.
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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    This policy of drone striking dissidents who are Americans is allowing our government to define imminent threats and legitimate targets without providing evidence of wrongdoing. How can you think that is okay?
    Evidence is provided. Just not to the public.

    They aren't even disclosing what country the guy is in. All details are kept under wraps.
    Not in public, no.

    The government always has an obligation to the People to justify its use of powers on its own people, and that's the way it was prior to the catch-all "war on terror" which you seem to support.
    That obligation is seen through via the Congress. Not through releasing things via press releases for everyone in the world to pore over.

    The Constitution of the United States is not pretend.
    And where does it define justice as what you said?

    Use your brain and not your emotions. The door is being open to major power grabs here.
    I don't really have much emotion about this whatsoever.
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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    This policy of drone striking dissidents who are Americans is allowing our government to define imminent threats and legitimate targets without providing evidence of wrongdoing. How can you think that is okay?

    They aren't even disclosing what country the guy is in. All details are kept under wraps.

    The government always has an obligation to the People to justify its use of powers on its own people, and that's the way it was prior to the catch-all "war on terror" which you seem to support.



    The Constitution of the United States is not pretend. You can put your fingers in your ears and shout "la la la" all you want but drone striking U.S. citizens without trial is controversial at best, and illegal at worst. Obama has already declared it illegal to use drones outside of the military, but what happens when the next President comes to power? Are we going to start taking people out all over the world no matter where they are?

    Use your brain and not your emotions. The door is being open to major power grabs here.
    The dude your debating doesn't do anything on emotion!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What are we supposed to do with an American that is an area were we can't arrest him as he is fighting against his country?
    Snag and grab. Follow the rule of law to say the least.


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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Snag and grab. Follow the rule of law to say the least.
    Snag and grab isn't inside the rule of law.

    It might- just might- be that international law should be considered more a guideline than anything else.
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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Snag and grab isn't inside the rule of law.

    It might- just might- be that international law should be considered more a guideline than anything else.
    It certainly inside the rule of law.
    If the country allows ours to enter their country and bring them back for trial we are then allowed to do that.


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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It certainly inside the rule of law.
    If the country allows ours to enter their country and bring them back for trial we are then allowed to do that.
    Uhh..."if" they allowed. That's a big if.

    If they don't allow it...is that it? Give up? Not worth it then?
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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Uhh..."if" they allowed. That's a big if.

    If they don't allow it...is that it? Give up? Not worth it then?
    Follow our rule of law.


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    Re: US looks to target American citizen with drone strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Follow our rule of law.
    Nah. Let's be pragmatic.
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