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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I've encountered all the typical dire predictions, none of which have any reasonable foundation in truth, and none which have come to pass. If you want to observe the long term impacts of gay marriage then by all means you're fee to do so, but there is no good reason to expect gays to wait for these studies to be completed before they have their equal rights.
    That's what most people with a cause say.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That's what most people with a cause say.
    Fortunately, rational people are concluding that more than "well, there might be something bad far off in the future" is needed to justify not just giving them equal rights now. But I'll tell you what: please go ahead and continue to study the impacts of gay marriage as it continues to be legal. Just don't take it personally if we don't pay you to do so.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is no surprise. But then, you seem to have a preconceived opinion getting in your way.

    Just being practical. If gay marriage had a negative impact we'd probably be seeing at least one or two by now.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    From the article:

    The government estimates that more than 1,100 federal regulations, rights and laws touch on, or are affected by, marital status. With a memo on Monday, Mr. Holder plans to make several of those provisions apply equally to gay and straight couples.

    The federal government will soon treat married same-sex couples the same as heterosexual couples when they file for bankruptcy, testify in court or visit family in prison.

    Eric Holder “In every courthouse, in every proceeding and in every place where a member of the Department of Justice stands on behalf of the United States, they will strive to ensure that same-sex marriages receive the same privileges, protections and rights as opposite-sex marriages,”

    “As all-important as the fight against racial discrimination was then, and remains today, know this: My commitment to confronting discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity runs just as deep,” his speech said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/us...id=tw-bna&_r=1


    Happy to say we are getting closer and closer to equality even though it has been relentlessly challenged by the close minded and the fearful every step of the way. We evolve despite them.
    Because progressives and our progressives in government positions PROMOTE homosexuality - which is unprecedented (at least in government).

    If homosexuality is not such a "big deal" to progressives then why the **** do you promote it so much and make an issue out of it?

    You see progressives always need a social war to rely on - that way they can talk **** about imaginary "injustices" while acting like a bunch of activists instead of doing their jobs (which they have absolutely ZERO idea how to do)....

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Just being practical. If gay marriage had a negative impact we'd probably be seeing at least one or two by now.
    You may be more likely to get a response if you ask "what do you fear the impact will be". Just say'in
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You may be more likely to get a response if you ask "what do you fear the impact will be". Just say'in
    You think he hasn't been asked this already? His answer to this is essentially, "we don't know, studies need to be done."

    When pressed by Deuce on the matter, this is what jog had to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Oh, that is quite normal with sociological topics of complex interactions, many leads and lags of varying lengths and large populations involved. I am surprised you wouldn't know that. Such processes are never straight forward or mostly even vaguely fortellable. It is quite naive to demand predictions, especially without research. If you pay me, however, I will put together a proposal of how to structure the studies.
    That's a very flowery way of saying "hell if I know."

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
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    Because progressives and our progressives in government positions PROMOTE homosexuality - which is unprecedented (at least in government).
    Are you saying the federal government is encouraging you to go out and **** a guy? I think you might be confused. They are promoting their civil rights. Just like they promote other oppressed groups civil rights. It is not the act.

    If homosexuality is not such a "big deal" to progressives then why the **** do you promote it so much and make an issue out of it?
    Again, civil rights is the big issue. Here is something for you to consider. What if you were the one, part of a group who's civil rights were being denied you? Wouldn't you hope someone of authority would step in and make things right? It makes sense to support and promote equality as a fundamental practice. Like I said, what if you end up a member of such a group someday?

    You see progressives always need a social war to rely on - that way they can talk **** about imaginary "injustices" while acting like a bunch of activists instead of doing their jobs (which they have absolutely ZERO idea how to do)....
    The war as you call it begins when there is not equality not when inequalities are protested.
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Just being practical. If gay marriage had a negative impact we'd probably be seeing at least one or two by now.
    You think so? Some of the more severe impacts of female equality are just now starting to affect us.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

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    You think he hasn't been asked this already? His answer to this is essentially, "we don't know, studies need to be done."

    When pressed by Deuce on the matter, this is what jog had to say.



    That's a very flowery way of saying "hell if I know."
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    why is this even an issue, but for religious bigotry?

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