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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again, no it doesn't. Not enforcing pot laws does not make pot legal. Not to mention it creates a state of lack of uniform enforcement.
    Not the same thing as marriage laws in any way, shape, or form. We are talking about enforcement that is done based solely on specific traits of people. Plus, one is civil laws, the other criminal laws. Enforcement of marriage laws is about recognition of marriage. Enforcement of pot laws is about punishment for someone for doing something wrong. Two different things.
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not the same thing as marriage laws in any way, shape, or form. We are talking about enforcement that is done based solely on specific traits of people. Plus, one is civil laws, the other criminal laws. Enforcement of marriage laws is about recognition of marriage. Enforcement of pot laws is about punishment for someone for doing something wrong. Two different things.
    Section 3 may have been nuked by the SCOTUS, but Section 2 was left standing:

    On June 26, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Section 3 of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, clearing the way for same-sex couples legally married at the state level to receive federal marriage benefits. But Section 2 of DOMA remains in effect. It says: “No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.”

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No but you can have a joint bank account, you can buy a home jointly ......

    Don't talk to me about taxes because I'm an "accountant" well I was - I don't do it anymore.

    You would think that someone that claims they were an "accountant" would know that a joint bank account does not relieve the individuals on that account from reporting the income that was deposited in that account - and of course taxes are based on income not deposits and that if such an account is used to tranfer money from one individual to another that such tranfers over (IIRC) $14,000 as of 2013 would then be considred a gift and therefore subject to a Gift Tax.

    Something that does not apply to Civilly Married couples. Gender no longer matters in that case now since DOMA Section 3 was ruled unconstitutional and Civilly Married couples (of all genders) fall under Federal Tax laws.



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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Section 3 may have been nuked by the SCOTUS, but Section 2 was left standing:
    Section 2 is still standing and has no bearing on whether the federal government recognizes the marriages or not though. Whether the state recognizes the marriage really hasn't stopped the federal government from recognizing a marriage. There has never really been an issue before states simply don't care enough to search into other marriages until an issue arises or one of the two within the marriage challenge the marriage. They simply see a valid marriage license from a state and "ta da" couple recognized as married. This is even how it worked in the military. All I had to do was show a valid marriage license, stamped by any state, not the one I lived in at the time of the marriage.
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Section 3 may have been nuked by the SCOTUS, but Section 2 was left standing:

    On June 26, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Section 3 of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, clearing the way for same-sex couples legally married at the state level to receive federal marriage benefits. But Section 2 of DOMA remains in effect. It says: “No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.”

    You may want to check the Thread Title and OP: "More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples".


    The case in your quote was United States v. Windsor and had to do with Federal recognition, not the States.


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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    You would think that someone that claims they were an "accountant" would know that a joint bank account does not relieve the individuals on that account from reporting the income that was deposited in that account - and of course taxes are based on income not deposits and that if such an account is used to tranfer money from one individual to another that such tranfers over (IIRC) $14,000 as of 2013 would then be considred a gift and therefore subject to a Gift Tax.

    Something that does not apply to Civilly Married couples. Gender no longer matters in that case now since DOMA Section 3 was ruled unconstitutional and Civilly Married couples (of all genders) fall under Federal Tax laws.



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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    People have the right to criticize Christians. It's that first amendment thing.

    People particularly have the right to criticize Christians who actively work to suppress the civil rights of others.
    People who think we all hate gay people are ignorant. It is no different than saying all Muslims are terrorists.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    You would think that someone that claims they were an "accountant" would know that a joint bank account does not relieve the individuals on that account from reporting the income that was deposited in that account - and of course taxes are based on income not deposits and that if such an account is used to tranfer money from one individual to another that such tranfers over (IIRC) $14,000 as of 2013 would then be considred a gift and therefore subject to a Gift Tax.

    Something that does not apply to Civilly Married couples. Gender no longer matters in that case now since DOMA Section 3 was ruled unconstitutional and Civilly Married couples (of all genders) fall under Federal Tax laws.



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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    People who think we all hate gay people are ignorant. It is no different than saying all Muslims are terrorists.
    Nobody said that all Christians hate gay people.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    GTFO Dude. You know damn well we have people here who claim to want equal treatment for all while blocking Christian conservatives as a single entity.

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