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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Precisely, and Holder and his boss have shown they believe they can make an end run. Their judgement is seriously flawed in this and not to be trusted.
    its legal so they are good
    your opinion after that are meaningless, i might even share them but they are meaningless none the less
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    how does one choose not to have thier sexual orientation lol
    Oh boy a whole new can-o-worms!
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Oh boy a whole new can-o-worms!
    lol not new at all theres only one accurate answer
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    lol not new at all theres only one accurate answer
    I meant in this thread. This topic always branches out to absurd claims about homosexuality being unnatural or that someone can chose not to be gay. It's ridiculous.
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It concerns what the federal government recognizes as married couples. This wouldn't be an issue at all if all states simply obeyed the US Constitution and treated people equally under their laws, by removing gender restrictions within their marriage laws. The federal government recognizes people as married. Legal marriage certificate from any state gives legal marriage recognition to the couple under federal law, unless you want to show where it doesn't excluding same sex couples that legally marry as such.
    I can show where there are exceptions to marriage portability. Washington state for example does not allow first cousin marriage. Marriages in states that do are not recognised in Washington.

    "The general doctrine that a marriage valid where contracted is valid everywhere, has so often been declared by the courts and reiterated by text writers that it has become a maxim of the law. But there are exceptions to the rule as well established as the rule itself, viz: (1) incestuous and polygamous marriages prohibited by natural law; and (2) marriages prohibited by positive law." State v. Nakashima, 62 Wash. 686 (1911).

    "Marriages in Washington are prohibited between parties nearer of kin to each other than second cousins, either of the whole or half blood, computing by the rules of the civil law. Wash. Code 7151" [renumbered: RCW 26.04.020(1)(b)]. Nakashima, at 687.

    The existence of positive law prohibiting a 1st cousin marriage in Washington State, under Washington law, would render a valid California marriage void. However, it is worth noting that ehe applicable case law I have provided is exactly 100 years old. The point being that the issue rarely arises -- and, since a marriage annulment requires a court order, unless and until you or your spouse were to challenge the marriage, it is unlikely to ever arise as an issue.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I agree but, homosexuality is not "normal" by any definition of the word - at least not generally. I'm sure there are plenty of cities in the US with a gay district where in that instance being gay would be "normal" but generally it's not.

    Sure you can sign civil contracts and file joint taxes - hell my dad has to do it with my brothers ever since my grandmother passed and left all the assets to my dad and uncles.

    If gays went about it the right way they could file joint taxes. It be a pain in the ass with a lot of paperwork and such but...

    IMO, I don't hate gays either. I just wish they stop shoving their sexuality down peoples throats..... As far as I'm concerned (given my religion as a Catholic) gays making out in public and such is the equivalant of Islamophobes throwing bacon at Muslims just minding their own business. It's very offensive to some, but at the same time I have been in situations where I saw that happening and you know what I did? I got up and left.... Unlike a progressive who would have gone to the manager if they saw or heard something they disagree with....

    You see that is real tolerance.
    Welll thats a little far fetched... that last bit.... it's more like an islamophobes eating bacon infront of a muslim.... the gay is not trying to kiss you or make out with you he is making out with someone he loves.... why can you make out with a girl? and I can't make out with my boyfriend..... thats kinda backwards imo but everyone has there opinion

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Precisely, and Holder and his boss have shown they believe they can make an end run. Their judgement is seriously flawed in this and not to be trusted.
    What precisely do you disagree with in this decision to extend federal rights to married same sex couples in states that do not recognize same sex marriage?

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    its legal so they are good
    your opinion after that are meaningless, i might even share them but they are meaningless none the less
    Not what the quote says, says they're reviewing what is legal for them to change and what is not. I question their ability to conduct that review accurately considering their track record.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    What precisely do you disagree with in this decision to extend federal rights to married same sex couples in states that do not recognize same sex marriage?
    The ability of the Justice Department and the Executive Branch as a whole to do so. Not their place.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I can show where there are exceptions to marriage portability. Washington state for example does not allow first cousin marriage. Marriages in states that do are not recognised in Washington.
    Can you show where they are enforced (the state goes out of their way to figure out if an already married couple entering their state is also first cousins or some other type prohibited couple) or where the federal government stops recognizing those couples as married? I know that I've never been asked whether my husband and I were first cousins or whatever when we filed taxes in a different state than we were married in. Heck, no state so far has asked us anything. I doubt it is noted on a marriage license from those states that allow those things.

    Plus, that also specifies that unless the couple challenges the marriage, the state simply won't care. Why would you figure the federal government would?
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