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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In many states they're NOT.

    Like I said this is a Tenth Amendment issue here because there is no amendment that even touches on gay marriage.
    It is also a Full Faith and Credit Clause issue because same sex marriages are effectively annulled simply by crossing state lines. DOMA creates that issue. The 10th does not give states the power to reject recognition of marriages performed in other states.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No but you can have a joint bank account, you can buy a home jointly ......

    Don't talk to me about taxes because I'm an "accountant" well I was - I don't do it anymore.
    Still some things that you can't do without being a legal spouse. There are still differences. And without being able to establish that legal kinship, then they are treated unequally. You are trying to get around the laws through tricks rather than admitting that there is a difference in treatment there.

    Some more examples. You are not legally entitled to time off to go to the funeral of someone not viewed as legal family, which includes inlaws. So if your mate's mother or father dies, and you are not considered their spouse, their employer is not required to give you the required time for that. But if they are a legal spouse, that makes their family legally your family as well, covered by Family Leave Act.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The 14th doesn't make any ****ing sense - the 14th is so vague it's almost a riddle.

    I would love to repeal (or at least amend or add an addendum) the 14th to make it blatantly clear - that or just repeal the damn thing.
    Sorry the Constitution is inconvenient for you.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The 14th doesn't make any ****ing sense - the 14th is so vague it's almost a riddle.

    I would love to repeal (or at least amend or add an addendum) the 14th to make it blatantly clear - that or just repeal the damn thing.
    You don't have the support so you can just forget it. The 14th is staying. Most people approve of it. Just because you are unhappy with it, doesn't mean it is wrong.
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Sorry, I'm done talking about gay marriage and offering loopholes around this nonsense. This is a boring subject that I don't really give a **** about when there are REAL problems and injustices happening in the United States, so I'm going to bounce from this topic.

    I'll check it out later.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Actually SCOTUS made the call when they found Section 3 of DOMA unconstitutional last June. That simply returned the Federal government back to the previous status, recognizing legal Civil Marriages entered into under State law.



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    Not the way it works. Congress enacts, the SCOTUS rules then Congress enacts again. The Executive's duties begin AFTER Congress enacts.

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You don't have the support so you can just forget it. The 14th is staying. Most people approve of it. Just because you are unhappy with it, doesn't mean it is wrong.
    No one even has the support to amend the Constitution - not even in congress so...... I don't think either party even wants to - they like this social division - it's what they the government wanted in the first place....

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not the way it works. Congress enacts, the SCOTUS rules then Congress enacts again. The Executive's duties begin AFTER Congress enacts.
    The laws are already there, already enacted for marriage. The states screw it up by not recognizing marriages from other states and that is the main issue. Do you really think that first cousins who marry in one state that it is allowed have to worry about their marriages not being recognized by the other state they move to or fully by the federal government? I'm willing to bet it doesn't become an issue because most likely the new state doesn't even check to see whether the two were first cousins or not. It is only an issue with same sex marriages because their sexes/genders are legally known to the state without any extra effort to find it out.
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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Sorry, I'm done talking about gay marriage and offering loopholes around this nonsense. This is a boring subject that I don't really give a **** about when there are REAL problems and injustices happening in the United States, so I'm going to bounce from this topic.

    I'll check it out later.
    yeah fellow americans being discriminated against, denied equal rights and treated as lessers is no real problem or injustice <end sarcasm>

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    Re: More Federal Privileges to Extend to Same-Sex Couples

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No one even has the support to amend the Constitution - not even in congress so...... I don't think either party even wants to - they like this social division - it's what they the government wanted in the first place....
    Support has been there many times. The whole point of making it hard to amend the Constitution is so that it isn't done on a whim. That includes the 14th Amendment. It is important that states do not have the power to trample all over the rights of people just because they are states. It is stupid to allow a smaller form of tyranny of the majorities to exist in the form of states.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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