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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you think there are any career FBI agents left who are non-partisan?
    They've all been appointed/hired under one patronage system or another.
    It's like we have an FBI of "moles", each spying on the other party and leaking damaging information.

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    Sure on the FBI, there are quite a lot of agents/investigators who are nonpolitical. There are plenty who haven't donated any money to one party or the other. There are honest men in the FBI who would let the chips fall where they may. The FBI is a lot like the military, they are a few who support avidly one party or the other, but the vast majority are basically nonpolitical and really do not give a rats butt who wins any political election. I am not talking political appointees like Holder or the head of the FBI who ever he is.

    There has to be a reason why one of these nonpolitical types was not appointed instead of a very political type who donated to Obama. Am I reading too much into that appointment, perhaps. But that is what Watergate has done to America. I trusted IKE, JFK and even LBJ, even though I knew LBJ was a SOB when it came to political paybacks. But I learned of LBJ's paybacks using the powers of the IRS and the FBI after he was out of office, but while he was in, although I voted for Goldwater, I liked him and backed him.
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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

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    Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real - AndFox Nation is a blog site, and one of the two stories this "story" was just reposting was from Mediaite (a blog site). As such, it doesn't belong in MSM. Moved to correct forum

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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Another turning a blind eye, because it is coming from an administration they support....Thanks for once again highlighting this shrub....We were beginning to wonder...



    Who's turning a blind eye?

    I said that when someone gets convicted and sent to prison I'll take a look at this.

    What more do you want?

    Right now it looks like a time-wasting witch-hunt to me.

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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    And the Obama administration will continue to ignore the House comittees request for pertinant documents.

    When did reasonable intelligent people start equating innocence to someone first apologizing for the IRSs actions and then taking the fifth whrn asked about it under oath ?



    Take a look at all of the Bush mis-administrations appearances before Congress- then come back and tell us all about it.

    I've heard this story before.

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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    When someone gets convicted and goes to prison, come back and tell us all about it.




    Until that happens, I'll continue to ignore this bull****.
    That's fair, but unless and until an independent counsel is appointed by the Senate there will be no such criminal investigation, charges or convictions, no one going to prison, while Eric Holder remains the lead on such actions.

    Just remember, there was nothing, no investigations, no charges, and a lot of Republican minimalizing when it came to Watergate before an independent counsel was appointed, and then a second one, and after the attorney general was forced to resign, etc.

    I'm not saying this is anywhere near what Watergate was, but to suggest there needs to be convictions and prison before the matter is taken seriously is to be blind to history.
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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Congress? Obama doesn't need no stinking congress. These IRS regulations are mere rules - not laws.

    There was no corruption (not even a smidgen), or any abuse of IRS power (just ask MSNBC, or Obama) - there was simply confusion over the IRS 501c4 rules (that used to be called tax laws). The Obama solution is really quite simple - just change those "confusing" IRS rules. Since these IRS rules (regulations - formerly kniown as tax laws?) are no longer federal tax laws (those went away some time ago) they can be changed, by the very same federal executive agency that enforces them, to make whatever the current administration wants IRS to do to become the "law oif the land".

    GOP wants IRS to drop rule change, calling it politically motivated | TribLIVE
    Just to be clear, the change to the rules was just that. The "law" allowed NO political activity for 501(c)(4)s. The IRS changed the wording, not the congress.

    The IRS changes "exclusively" to "primarily" in its regulatory language in 1959.

    The law passed by congress STILL says "exclusively".
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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Not a single thinking person - regardless of party - believed Obama when he said there wasn't a smidgen of corruption in these IRS audits.

    He couldn't even say it with conviction. He looked like as idiot as the words left his mug.

    He sat there, and just lied through his teeth. Not a breath of character in that guy.

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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Sure on the FBI, there are quite a lot of agents/investigators who are nonpolitical. There are plenty who haven't donated any money to one party or the other. There are honest men in the FBI who would let the chips fall where they may. The FBI is a lot like the military, they are a few who support avidly one party or the other, but the vast majority are basically nonpolitical and really do not give a rats butt who wins any political election. I am not talking political appointees like Holder or the head of the FBI who ever he is.
    As for specifics, hit me with your best shot.
    I'm more than willing to look at real evidence.
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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    This has already been solved by the Treasury and President Obama is correct. Here is the report from the Treasury Inspector General For Taxation. Inappropriate Criteria Were Used to
    Identify Tax-Exempt Applications for Review
    Read the Summary on the first page.

    http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditr...01310053fr.pdf

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    Re: Not a 'Smidgen' of Corruption? Witnesses Say the IRS Targeting Scandal Is Real -

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This has already been solved by the Treasury and President Obama is correct. Here is the report from the Treasury Inspector General For Taxation. Inappropriate Criteria Were Used to
    Identify Tax-Exempt Applications for Review
    Read the Summary on the first page.

    http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditr...01310053fr.pdf
    From your own link...

    WHAT TIGTA FOUND

    The IRS used inappropriate criteria that identified for review Tea Party and other In their response to the report...

    TIGTA does not agree that the alternative corrective actions will accomplish the intent of the recommendations...
    So, TIGTA says wrongdoing took place, and recommended what was to be done, and the IRS said 'yeah, no thanks'....And that solves it?
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