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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    True, and you would agree that even in a case where the police officer is viewing the circumstances one way (public safety / highway obstruction) and the fire fighter or paramedic is viewing the event with more interest in tending to a victim (no matter how much traffic is impacted), I still don't see the need for a police officer to arrest a firefighter over the difference of opinion. Unless the firefighter is actually doing something criminal, I don't see how the cop doesn't come off as seeming unreasonable?
    I don't see the fire department helping the police department much after an incident like this.

    It is in the best interest of the police department to stay on the good side of the fire department.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    So much for that "to serve and protect" motto.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Personally, I can see how both individuals handled this situation improperly. Doesn't sound to me like there was much desire for communication nor any mutual respect for the job each was tasked with doing. At every scene like this, there is a supervisor from both disciplines and they simply needed to coordinate how the situation was going to be handled.
    In this scenario, the FD outranks everyone.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In this scenario, the FD outranks everyone.
    ^ What he said. I think that five-oh is going to be in serious trouble.
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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I don't see the fire department helping the police department much after an incident like this.

    It is in the best interest of the police department to stay on the good side of the fire department.
    I agree with that.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The fire department has the right of way and can leave the truck where it is.

    How can the officer possibly justify this action?
    No, not in all circumstances. It wasn't a fire response scene. The scene was controlled by the police. He refused an order from the agency that had control of the scene. They probably wouldn't normally have arrested him, but he looked like he wasn't going to budge.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In this scenario, the FD outranks everyone.
    No so at all. It was a traffic accident, paramedics already had the victims, the police (CHP) are traffic.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No so at all. It was a traffic accident, paramedics already had the victims, the police (CHP) are traffic.
    If the FD is still working the scene, they own it, until they release it to the cops.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the FD is still working the scene, they own it, until they release it to the cops.
    As much as it kills me to say it, apdst is right here. First response has control of the scene unless it's a crime scene. DWI can be exceptions, but that's usually rare.
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    Re: Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    As much as it kills me to say it, apdst is right here. First response has control of the scene unless it's a crime scene. DWI can be exceptions, but that's usually rare.
    Why does it kill you to say it? If you think I'm right, then you go with it. Just because you're wrong all the time, it shouldn't be that hard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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