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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, History is certainly full of those who chose to determine how it should be viewed.

    For example, European history writes about Christopher Columbus and America, because from their perspective, he did discover America. Of couse, he also reported on the natives who were already here. The fact he did so, which eliminates any chance of being absolute sole discoverer, somehow gets drowned out by those voices who claim his historic label of Discoverer of America is racist, because it seeks to ignore the natives who were already here. As far as Europe was concerned, America didn't exist. Only in this PC era, does this fact get convoluted into a story about racism and Eurocentric bias.
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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's so weird. I don't remember a single kid in the 70s or 80s at school that had a deadly reaction, or any reaction, to peanuts. Now, you take a peanut into a school, and they treat you like a terrorist.

    Where did this come from?
    I remember in elementary school, some 50 years ago, a kid we used to nickname Sayko Bobby (Sayko was a brand of tuna back then) because every day he had tuna and peanut butter sandwiches and they were the most disgusting, vomit inducing, concoctions around - but nobody suffered deadly reactions, except seeing the peanut buttered tuna bits in his braces after lunch was heart-stopping at times.
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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Same thing with this side of the world from the point of view of the natives.
    It makes it hard to answer your question though. Conceptually, to discover something you have to have a view of the topic at hand that is discrete. So there is, on the idea level, a separation between the ideas of Europe, Asia, and Africa for instance.

    If the people in the indoasian group that came across the bearing straight during a low water period thought of it as more land and essentially no different from the land behind them, can we say they discovered anything?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Stop for a minute and think about the story of Christopher Columbus. Indians didn't write his history, Europe did. They wrote it at the time it occured. As such, the discovery was from Europe's perspective. That's not Eurocentric, that's just fact.

    Columbus reported on the native populations he discovered there. No account of Christopher Columbus suggests America was void of any humans. If someone tells you they discovered this cool new park, do you tell them "no you didn't, somebody else discovered it long before you"?

    Just because history reported Columbus discovered America doesn't mean Indians were meaningless, and didn't exist, as the hand wringers would want people to believe. It simply means from what Europe knew about lands outside their region, he did discover America.

    The rest is a continuation of the PC agenda run amok.
    Actually, "Europe's perspective" would be exactly what I call Eurocentric by definition.

    The very fact that America "was discovered" is from a European point of view. Why should our history be told by Europeans?


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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I remember in elementary school, some 50 years ago, a kid we used to nickname Sayko Bobby (Sayko was a brand of tuna back then) because every day he had tuna and peanut butter sandwiches and they were the most disgusting, vomit inducing, concoctions around - but nobody suffered deadly reactions, except seeing the peanut buttered tuna bits in his braces after lunch was heart-stopping at times.
    Peanut butter and tuna sandwiches? Have you kept track of his whereabouts, or didn't he survive his lunches?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's so weird. I don't remember a single kid in the 70s or 80s at school that had a deadly reaction, or any reaction, to peanuts. Now, you take a peanut into a school, and they treat you like a terrorist.

    Where did this come from?
    I think their parents rolled another solution. Back then, just because one student was allergic to something, the entire school didn't need to swear off it. Also, good chance they may have died before breeding and passing it on, there were peanuts in everything and no label laws.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Here is a little comic relief about this topic to lighten the mood.


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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Erod, do you think the debate here is about whether fried chicken is yummy? Or do you think it might...just might...be about something else, even if you don't necessarily understand it?
    I fully understand it. We've managed, somehow, to equate fried chicken and watermelon to slavery and deeply embedded racism.

    It's black history month (which in itself could be construed as racist, much like Affirmative Action). One of the things this school did was "celebrate" the foods that black Americans have HISTORICALLY enjoyed. That's not the only thing the school did, just one of the things.

    Then a bunch of people get butthurt because chicken and watermelon have been culturally spun by the left to be synonymous with racism and bigotry. How that is, is baffling. And until we stop fixating on these meaningless nothings, progress will remain stuck in the mud on a lot of levels.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    It usually does eventually boil down to an absurdity that sometimes I think only we Americans could be guilty of.

    If we were celebrating Jewish history month, would anyone be offended by the cafeteria serving a kosher meal?

    If we were celebrating Irish history, or it was St. Patrick's Day, would anyone be offended by the cafeteria serving corned beef and cabbage or Irish stew?

    If we are celebrating Native American heritage, would anyone be offended by the cafeteria serving traditional "Indian" fare including fry bread and pemmican?

    So why is it such an insult to acknowledge that 'black history' includes the invention of and concept of soul food and incorporate that into the process? A whole bunch of us like it a lot. Am I missing something here?
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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I fully understand it. We've managed, somehow, to equate fried chicken and watermelon to slavery and deeply embedded racism.

    It's black history month (which in itself could be construed as racist, much like Affirmative Action). One of the things this school did was "celebrate" the foods that black Americans have HISTORICALLY enjoyed. That's not the only thing the school did, just one of the things.

    Then a bunch of people get butthurt because chicken and watermelon have been culturally spun by the left to be synonymous with racism and bigotry. How that is, is baffling. And until we stop fixating on these meaningless nothings, progress will remain stuck in the mud on a lot of levels.

    You think this was created by a liberal movement? You give Democrats too much credit.


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