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    Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ridiculous as this is, it does highlight the undeniable fact that some people will be offended by pretty much anything.

    Never have understood what is so insulting about fried chicken and watermelon. Both are yummy.
    Am offended because the watermelon made the chicken all soggy!

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well then, by all means, let the central committee publish a list of culturally acceptable foods that can be served throughout the year.

    How about dropping the whole "XYZ History Month" concept all together, and just get back to the concept of educating all?

    Would such a thing be possible, or would the mere suggestion smack of Eurocentrism?
    Eventually it does get back to Eurocentric. We had a whole chapter and unit about English and Scottish history and who Jethro Tull was (actual guy, not the band). Not that I remember or gave a **** about it then. The history of our dominant culture being an offshoot of European culture...

    Example: Who discovered America? You usually hear either Christopher Columbus or the Vikings. But not the people who were already living there, which if it's true that they came over from Asia, wouldn't you think that's a "discovery?"

    While the history of white folks here is important, we tend to pretend that it's all there was. History is written by the winners, but we sure know a lot about who lost WWI, right?

    We could just followup every lesson about George Washington with watching "Ask a Slave" on youtube.



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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ridiculous as this is, it does highlight the undeniable fact that some people will be offended by pretty much anything.

    Never have understood what is so insulting about fried chicken and watermelon. Both are yummy.
    The issue is not whether foods associated with black people are considered "yummy" but over reducing black history month to cartoon stereotypes.

    Let's bring it closer to home (at least for me): during a month remembering the Holocaust, a school cafeteria serves gefilte fish and matzo ball soup. I would look at that and think, "You know, I sort of feel like they're missing the point here."
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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm admittedly from the wrong country when it comes to this topic, but why is this such an insult? Here in Canada, and I assume many other places, people of various nationalities open up restaurants and simple eateries that serve what they call traditional, ethnic foods - foods that many people associate with certain cultures. Are Indians outraged when people immediately think of them when they smell curry? Do Italians become apoplectic when pasta and meatballs are associated with them?

    I find it odd that what would be considered basic menu highlights at any Popeye's Louisiana Chicken restaurant, admittedly without the watermelon, is such a racial slur.

    Doesn't America need to get past its need to navel gaze and manufacture racism everywhere? I think the people who immediately took offense to this menu are the ones with the racism problems, not the people who thought creating such a menu would be a way to honour and show respect to black history month.
    Hey John

    To save you some time reading through our crap, here is a link about why it is offensive...

    Watermelon stereotype - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also, again I'm myself don't think the person who put this together is racist. I think they are just naive to African American culture.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The issue is not whether foods associated with black people are considered "yummy" but over reducing black history month to cartoon stereotypes.
    Are they really stereotypes if they're true? And for gawd's sake what's wrong with a "sterotype" that says you eat a lot of fried chicken and watermelon? I fail to see the insult in that.

    Hispanics eat a lot of tortillas. Asians love their rice. Where's the problem?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm admittedly from the wrong country when it comes to this topic, but why is this such an insult? Here in Canada, and I assume many other places, people of various nationalities open up restaurants and simple eateries that serve what they call traditional, ethnic foods - foods that many people associate with certain cultures. Are Indians outraged when people immediately think of them when they smell curry? Do Italians become apoplectic when pasta and meatballs are associated with them?

    I find it odd that what would be considered basic menu highlights at any Popeye's Louisiana Chicken restaurant, admittedly without the watermelon, is such a racial slur.

    Doesn't America need to get past its need to navel gaze and manufacture racism everywhere? I think the people who immediately took offense to this menu are the ones with the racism problems, not the people who thought creating such a menu would be a way to honour and show respect to black history month.
    I don't necessarily think it's a racist thing serving fried chicken. I think it's stupid that someone thought this would fly. Did we need to have a black history themed lunch? Could have made it peanut butter sandwiches to celebrate George Washington Carver if you REALLY needed to do that.

    We should have Canadian heritage day. We can all say "EH," eat Tim Hortons, and talk about the Habs. "Oh that Patrick Roy, eh? Give me Terry Sawchuk, now there was a goalie."


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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Are they really stereotypes if they're true? And for gawd's sake what's wrong with a "sterotype" that says you eat a lot of fried chicken and watermelon? I fail to see the insult in that.

    Hispanics eat a lot of tortillas. Asians love their rice. Where's the problem?
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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    If it is then that's their bad. I take my White, Mexican, and Asian friends there all the time. If someone has a problem with that then I am not hard to find standing at 6'4".

    I don't tolerate racism regardless who it is coming from.
    So if blacks host a black cultural event you wouldn't expect any outrage but what if a white group hosts such an event or celebrates in the same manner?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Hey John

    To save you some time reading through our crap, here is a link about why it is offensive...

    Watermelon stereotype - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also, again I'm myself don't think the person who put this together is racist. I think they are just naive to African American culture.
    Thanks for that, and I appreciate that, but maybe people need to just get over themselves. I happen to love watermelon - I can't get enough of it in the summer and feel awful when the fall arrives and the prices skyrocket and the supply dwindles to almost nothing. I never look at a watermelon as being a symbol of racism. And I'll bet most young people wouldn't look at watermelon as a symbol of racism if self-important **** disturbers didn't insist on pointing it out and screaming racism every single time.

    Non-Americans just don't get your constant need to rip open old wounds.
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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So if blacks host a black cultural event you wouldn't expect any outrage but what if a white group hosts such an event or celebrates in the same manner?

    You do. It called 4th of July

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