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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Not trying to be funny, but what is the primary dishes of White America?
    Cheeseburgers, fries, chicken tenders, spaghetti, pizza, Mac and cheese.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Dude, if we can not only understand the history of the stereotypes and what they were used for, and put aside the PC problems, I have one basic question?

    What did you expect when your facility is supposed to placate parents? That's what they are supposed to do on a regular basis. What they do not compromise on is curriculum and some matters of school policy and discipline. Otherwise, being politically correct is the reality of a public school. They try to placate the community, whether it is a conservative one, liberal one, or purple. They are very politically correct on a regular basis, and it's not just the racial minorities and the liberals they like.

    When they make a screw up like this (which this is), guess what? Parents will complain.

    Well then, by all means, let the central committee publish a list of culturally acceptable foods that can be served throughout the year.

    How about dropping the whole "XYZ History Month" concept all together, and just get back to the concept of educating all?

    Would such a thing be possible, or would the mere suggestion smack of Eurocentrism?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I understand why people are upset.

    What you're failing to understand yourself, is how something presumably innocent get's turned into something culturally insensitive and derogatory.

    If you don't understand why that is a serious problem, then I suggest you need to think about it some more.

    And FYI, telling me to learn something is not being polite. It is presumptive and dismissive. So you can step down from the pedestal.
    You obviously didn't see a previous post I did defending the person. I said that there is no doubt in my mind that this person has a good heart. The thing that they should have done is consulted someone who is black. I personally thought their ignorance is actually funny. But there are many who don't think the same.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Cheeseburgers, fries, chicken tenders, spaghetti, pizza, Mac and cheese.
    Those are stereotypes.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm surrounded by Germans from Russia and Norwegians. It's freaky. Their heretic protestant ways ought to frighten every man, woman, and child...because their food is surprisingly addictive, once they show you what the Christ it is.
    Do they make you want to runza away?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    You obviously didn't see a previous post I did defending the person. I said that there is no doubt in my mind that this person has a good heart. The thing that they should have done is consulted someone who is black. I personally thought their ignorance is actually funny. But there are many who don't think the same.
    Right. Consult someone who is black. Brilliant. So they could put up signs that read "Food selections for Black History Month culturally and racially cleared by Joe, who is Black".

    Rediculous.

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Fritters have existed in Europe since the middle ages.[3] The Scots, and later Scottish immigrants to the southern United States, had a tradition of deep frying chicken in fat, unlike their English counterparts who baked or boiled chicken.[4][5]

    A number of West African cuisines featured dishes where chicken was fried, typically in palm oil, sometimes having been battered before. These would be served on special occasions in some areas, or sometimes sold in the streets as snacks in others.[6][7][8] This provided some means of independent economy for enslaved and segregated African American women, who became noted sellers of poultry (live or cooked) as early as the 1730s. Because of this and the expensive nature of the ingredients, it was, despite popular perception, a rare and special dish in the African-American community.[9]

    After the development of larger and faster-growing hogs (due to crosses between European and Asian breeds) in the 18th and 19th century, in the United States, backyard and small-scale hog production provided an inexpensive means of converting waste food, crop waste, and garbage into calories (in a relatively small space and in a relatively short period of time). Many of those calories came in the form of fat and rendered lard. Lard was used for almost all cooking and was a fundamental component in many common homestead foods (many that today are still regarded as holiday and comfort foods) like biscuits and pies. The economic/caloric necessity of consuming lard and other saved fats may have led to the popularity of fried foods, not only in the US, but worldwide. In the 19th century cast iron became widely available for use in cooking. The combination of flour, lard, a chicken and a heavy pan placed over a relatively controllable flame became the beginning of today's fried chicken.

    When it was introduced to the American South, fried chicken became a common staple. Later, as the slave trade led to Africans being brought to work on southern plantations, the slaves who became cooks incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor.[10] Since most slaves were unable to raise expensive meats, but generally allowed to keep chickens, frying chicken on special occasions continued in the African American communities of the South. It endured the fall of slavery and gradually passed into common use as a general Southern dish. Since fried chicken traveled well in hot weather before refrigeration was commonplace, it gained further favor in the periods of American history when segregation closed off most restaurants to the black population. Fried chicken continues to be among this region's top choices for "Sunday dinner" among both blacks and whites. Holidays such as Independence Day and other gatherings often feature this dish.[11]
    Fried chicken - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Right. Consult someone who is black. Brilliant. So they could put up signs that read "Food selections for Black History Month culturally and racially cleared by Joe, who is Black".

    Rediculous.
    Lol

    That would be hilarious

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Who said you couldn't?

    I go to numerous black food and jazz festivals all the time where it is multicultural and everyone is having a great time.
    Am I to assume that there is no outrage over those events?

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    Re: Calif. school apologizes for black history lunch menu

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Lol

    That would be hilarious
    "our official black friend joe" sounds more professional

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