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Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

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Being put in the slammer in America can be a life-threatening proposition. The most recent data from the U.S Ministry of Justice shows more than 11 thousand people died in local jails in the decade to 2011. As RT's Ameera David reports, some of those hadn't even been charged.


Video @:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaliMoKIOI

Is this just more proof that police in this country are trying to cover something up? This is horrible and incredibly disgusting.
 
Haven't watched it mostly because there is no such thing as the "U.S Ministry of Justice".
 
Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaliMoKIOI

Is this just more proof that police in this country are trying to cover something up? This is horrible and incredibly disgusting.

A socialist upset at government "killing people?" That's ironically amusing.

however, that's 11,000 people. In 11 years. In 2010 2.4 million people died.

I think a little perspective is needed here, just for starters.
 
Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaliMoKIOI

Is this just more proof that police in this country are trying to cover something up? This is horrible and incredibly disgusting.

Our culture is too despondent to do anything about this or other glaring social problems.
 
The leading cause of death among jail prisoners was suicide, accounting for 29% of all deaths. The probability of a prisoner committing suicide went down as the size of the jail increased. The suicide rate among the smallest jails was 6 times higher than among the largest jails.

At 41 deaths per 100,000 prisoners, heart disease was the leading cause of death in the 50 largest jails. The AIDS-related death rate was 7.5 times higher (15 per 100,000) within the 50 largest jails than in jails with an average daily population of under 1,000 (2 per 100,000). The homicide rate in the 50 largest jails was triple that of all other jails, but the intoxication death rate in the smallest jails (31 per 100,000) was quadruple that of the 50 largest jails (8 per 100,000).

Deaths due to accidents (4 per 100,000) and homicide (3 per 100,000) remained constant throughout the reporting period. The death rate for intoxication grew from 6 per 100,000 in 2000 to 10 per 100,000 in 2007. In 93% of the deaths reported, an autopsy was performed. In 6% of deaths among jail prisoners, no definitive cause of death was determined.
When the jail population is standardized to the demographics of the U.S. population as a whole, the leading causes of death are, in order of prevalence: suicide, heart disease, intoxication, AIDS and cancer. For the U.S. general population, the leading causes of death are heart disease, cancer, cerebrovascular disease (stroke), chronic lower respiratory disease and accidents. The suicide rate for jail prisoners was triple that of the general population. Clearly, this report indicates a need, especially for smaller jails, to expend additional resources to prevent prisoner suicides.
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/(S(...articleid=22841&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

You tube hype video vs. reality check. Reality wins. Nothing to see here folks.
 
A socialist upset at government "killing people?" That's ironically amusing.

however, that's 11,000 people. In 11 years. In 2010 2.4 million people died.

I think a little perspective is needed here, just for starters.

Of course socialism always plays a role in something like this somehow.... I didnt realize anywhere in this report or anything did capitalism get brought up...
 
Of course socialism always plays a role in something like this somehow.... I didnt realize anywhere in this report or anything did capitalism get brought up...

I merely find things amusing, like someone pushing for a democratic socialist system of government "upset" by "government" killing people. That's like a PETA meeting being catered by a BBQ joint.

Anyhoots, I also followed up with statistics, reality. You video is just silly emotional drivel, there is no cover up of something foul going on. Jail sucks, don't commit crimes, don't end up in jail.
 
Of course socialism always plays a role in something like this somehow.... I didnt realize anywhere in this report or anything did capitalism get brought up...

You brought it on yourself with the invocation of the mythical U.S Ministry of Justice, which sounds like something a socialist would think was a real agency.
 
I merely find things amusing, like someone pushing for a democratic socialist system of government "upset" by "government" killing people. That's like a PETA meeting being catered by a BBQ joint.

Anyhoots, I also followed up with statistics, reality. You video is just silly emotional drivel, there is no cover up of something foul going on. Jail sucks, don't commit crimes, don't end up in jail.

So socialist governments in history are the only governments that kill and imprison people? Really??? You may wanna take a loot back at history then...
 
So socialist governments in history are the only governments that kill and imprison people? Really??? You may wanna take a loot back at history then...

I see you've waved the white flag as my statistics post completely thrashed your little heart tugger youtube fail. Nice strawman, wherein did I imply "socialist governments in history are the only governments that kill and imprison people"? I didn't. I was merely mocking your crocodile tears about jail deaths. I suppose you could be willfully ignorant of the point of Irony I was alluding too, but I doubt it.
 
You brought it on yourself with the invocation of the mythical U.S Ministry of Justice, which sounds like something a socialist would think was a real agency.

Wait a sec so a socialist like myself who thinks this is wrong and a form of injustice brings something up like this and speaks out against it is "bringing this upon myself" just because we have a deparment of justice but dont forget its not the socialists who were pushing for a department of justice it was the people who first got imprissoned by the department of justice who were actually socialists and leftists.....
 
I see you've waved the white flag as my statistics post completely thrashed your little heart tugger youtube fail. Nice strawman, wherein did I imply "socialist governments in history are the only governments that kill and imprison people"? I didn't. I was merely mocking your crocodile tears about jail deaths. I suppose you could be willfully ignorant of the point of Irony I was alluding too, but I doubt it.

So wait im in favor of authoritarian state socialist government merley because i have "socialist" in my name? Hmmmmm STRAWMAN
 
Wait a sec so a socialist like myself who thinks this is wrong and a form of injustice brings something up like this and speaks out against it is "bringing this upon myself" just because we have a deparment of justice but dont forget its not the socialists who were pushing for a department of justice it was the people who first got imprissoned by the department of justice who were actually socialists and leftists.....

No, you're misunderstanding. You bought this fake youtube hubbub because it fit your script. The signs are there that it's fake, but you cared more about the political point then checking to see if there was a US Ministry of Justice (there is no such thing). You further get it wrong when you think the Department of Justice put those people in LOCAL jails.

Your stats have been debunked. Best to just take the hit and withdraw.
 
So socialist governments in history are the only governments that kill and imprison people? Really??? You may wanna take a loot back at history then...

I count 100 million innocent civilians murdered by communist aka socialist over the years. That doesn't include civilians caught in the crossfire during socialist revolutions of liberation.
 
So wait im in favor of authoritarian state socialist government merley because i have "socialist" in my name? Hmmmmm STRAWMAN

No, by your posts. Anyway, you've waved the white flag, do you enjoy saying "my entire thread was pointless" this loudly?
 
No, you're misunderstanding. You bought this fake youtube hubbub because it fit your script. The signs are there that it's fake, but you cared more about the political point then checking to see if there was a US Ministry of Justice (there is no such thing). You further get it wrong when you think the Department of Justice put those people in LOCAL jails.

Your stats have been debunked. Best to just take the hit and withdraw.

Just cuz you say its "hububub" does not "debunk" anything...
 
No, by your posts. Anyway, you've waved the white flag, do you enjoy saying "my entire thread was pointless" this loudly?

What does that mean? "By my posts"? Whats posts prove im in favor of authoritarianism?
 
I count 100 million innocent civilians murdered by communist aka socialist over the years. That doesn't include civilians caught in the crossfire during socialist revolutions of liberation.

This justifies this right!?!?!
 
So wait im in favor of authoritarian state socialist government merley because i have "socialist" in my name? Hmmmmm STRAWMAN
Furthermore I went to your tumbler site, you've got ole "Che" up. Real nice guy that one, how many people did he slaughter? My wife was wondering why I had a pick of the DDR East German flag on my screen, I showed her this thread and agreed with my first post. A "Pro Assad" little blurb and of course my personal favorite, the 1917 Soviet Central Committee whose who picture wall. I like on page two the nod to the ELN... That's a real peace loving group. A little slobbering over that fool Hugo Chavez... I could go on, but it's obvious you really don't care if a government kills it's people, you just care if it's a "capitalist" government doing the killing. And even then, you only care if it can push your dreams of a socialist utopia.

Frankly, you're the kind of person I despise most in this world. My wife grew up in Germany, she tells harrowing tales of crossing check point charlie with some goon with an AK pointed at the car. They crossed to do some sight seeing/shopping in East Berlin. She said it was scary how horrific conditions were over there. How scared, how down trodden the people were. How bleak it was.

You need perspective.

Is America perfect? Nope. Is Capitalism a "dog eat dog" highly competitive system where there are winners and losers? Yep. But the real goal of Capitalism is to allow ALL people the opportunity to succeed, to achieve. To fail. To get back up again. It's not perfect, but I'll be damned if I live under the tyranny of Socialist thugs.

You need to study what your ideological dreams really become in reality. You need to understand that what you seem to want so badly is a death sentence. Check out the "Cultural Revolution" in China under Mao. You'd be one of those people up against the wall.

That computer your using, the ISP you are on, the car you drive, the TV you watch? None of that would exist in your paradise. You'd go to work, meet your quota and stand in a line to get the food the Government decides you can have. Venezuela, an oil RICH COUNTRY has a toilet paper shortage. Stop for a minute and think about that. They lack TOILET PAPER. In a country that should be showered in wealth.

I pity you, but I think people like you are dangerous, because allowed to flourish you would condemn us all to hell.
 
I'll add your penal system to my list of SUBissues but I'll skip Arpaio and Seagal .
In my opinion, Americas entire penal system should be turned over to Joe Arpaio to run.
 
So wait im in favor of authoritarian state socialist government merley because i have "socialist" in my name? Hmmmmm STRAWMAN

Perhaps you don't understand what 'socialism' actually means. It's better to admit being ignorant of a fact than to understand what it means and stupidly support it anyway.
 
Furthermore I went to your tumbler site, you've got ole "Che" up. Real nice guy that one, how many people did he slaughter? My wife was wondering why I had a pick of the DDR East German flag on my screen, I showed her this thread and agreed with my first post. A "Pro Assad" little blurb and of course my personal favorite, the 1917 Soviet Central Committee whose who picture wall. I like on page two the nod to the ELN... That's a real peace loving group. A little slobbering over that fool Hugo Chavez... I could go on, but it's obvious you really don't care if a government kills it's people, you just care if it's a "capitalist" government doing the killing. And even then, you only care if it can push your dreams of a socialist utopia.

Frankly, you're the kind of person I despise most in this world. My wife grew up in Germany, she tells harrowing tales of crossing check point charlie with some goon with an AK pointed at the car. They crossed to do some sight seeing/shopping in East Berlin. She said it was scary how horrific conditions were over there. How scared, how down trodden the people were. How bleak it was.

You need perspective.

Is America perfect? Nope. Is Capitalism a "dog eat dog" highly competitive system where there are winners and losers? Yep. But the real goal of Capitalism is to allow ALL people the opportunity to succeed, to achieve. To fail. To get back up again. It's not perfect, but I'll be damned if I live under the tyranny of Socialist thugs.

You need to study what your ideological dreams really become in reality. You need to understand that what you seem to want so badly is a death sentence. Check out the "Cultural Revolution" in China under Mao. You'd be one of those people up against the wall.

That computer your using, the ISP you are on, the car you drive, the TV you watch? None of that would exist in your paradise. You'd go to work, meet your quota and stand in a line to get the food the Government decides you can have. Venezuela, an oil RICH COUNTRY has a toilet paper shortage. Stop for a minute and think about that. They lack TOILET PAPER. In a country that should be showered in wealth.

I pity you, but I think people like you are dangerous, because allowed to flourish you would condemn us all to hell.
Socialists will claim, and this propaganda began many years ago, that 'capitalism' is the opposite of socialism. The truth is that it is a conflict between human rights and freedoms versus totalitarianism.
 
Furthermore I went to your tumbler site, you've got ole "Che" up. Real nice guy that one, how many people did he slaughter? My wife was wondering why I had a pick of the DDR East German flag on my screen, I showed her this thread and agreed with my first post. A "Pro Assad" little blurb and of course my personal favorite, the 1917 Soviet Central Committee whose who picture wall. I like on page two the nod to the ELN... That's a real peace loving group. A little slobbering over that fool Hugo Chavez... I could go on, but it's obvious you really don't care if a government kills it's people, you just care if it's a "capitalist" government doing the killing. And even then, you only care if it can push your dreams of a socialist utopia.

Frankly, you're the kind of person I despise most in this world. My wife grew up in Germany, she tells harrowing tales of crossing check point charlie with some goon with an AK pointed at the car. They crossed to do some sight seeing/shopping in East Berlin. She said it was scary how horrific conditions were over there. How scared, how down trodden the people were. How bleak it was.

You need perspective.

Apparently you didnt read my tumblr post then when it came to what my blog is all about, "history and especially Soviet history and the history of communism. ". Giving a descprition about a topic or being intersted about a topic does not glorify it. If you find any of my posts about the USSR or the old Eastern Bloc you will find my posts being one of the fist to speak out against it.. Or the subject about the ELN you will find me also speaking in favor of peace talks when it comes to Colombian Guerilla Warfare.. If you knew me personally you would know i am a "flag collector" and one of my favorite flags i own is the old USSR flag and i dont hang it because i love the USSR's political system its because i love the history and love that history of the country. But if you want to talk about Che Guevar and Cuba's revolutionary trials (which i think your getting at) then i would welcome you to come to this thread and tag me in it: http://www.debatepolitics.com/latin-america/72631-real-che-guevara-82.html



Is America perfect? Nope. Is Capitalism a "dog eat dog" highly competitive system where there are winners and losers? Yep. But the real goal of Capitalism is to allow ALL people the opportunity to succeed, to achieve. To fail. To get back up again. It's not perfect, but I'll be damned if I live under the tyranny of Socialist thugs.
This isnt about capitalism or socialism. This is about a justice system. Capitalism and socialism are both economic systems...

You need to study what your ideological dreams really become in reality. You need to understand that what you seem to want so badly is a death sentence. Check out the "Cultural Revolution" in China under Mao. You'd be one of those people up against the wall.
I dont justify totalitarianism!!! If you ranked me on a political spectrum im very far from authoritarianism.

That computer your using, the ISP you are on, the car you drive, the TV you watch? None of that would exist in your paradise. You'd go to work, meet your quota and stand in a line to get the food the Government decides you can have. Venezuela, an oil RICH COUNTRY has a toilet paper shortage. Stop for a minute and think about that. They lack TOILET PAPER. In a country that should be showered in wealth.

I pity you, but I think people like you are dangerous, because allowed to flourish you would condemn us all to hell.
Dear god... Learn what an economic system is versus a social system is...
 
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