Page 13 of 13 FirstFirst ... 3111213
Results 121 to 129 of 129

Thread: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

  1. #121
    Gradualist

    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Last Seen
    09-25-17 @ 12:48 PM
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    34,949
    Blog Entries
    6

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    The difference is I recognize that fact but I don't say those are my points in history.
    Are your points? What does it mean to have a "point" in history?


  2. #122
    Educator Soupnazi630's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    11-08-14 @ 09:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    855

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    liberty and "justice" for all.....
    Locking criminals up IS justice for all

  3. #123
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    10-30-14 @ 12:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,908

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaliMoKIOI

    Is this just more proof that police in this country are trying to cover something up? This is horrible and incredibly disgusting.
    Both me an my entire family are activists for holding these prisons accountable for the deaths of people who are innocent until proven guilty (those held in county jails)...

    Read this story - and this man isn't the first either.

    Death of Lake County jail inmate Eugene Gruber ruled homicide - Chicago Tribune

    ^^ these guards broke this guys neck, thew him in a cell while he was screaming that he couldn't move. They called the "nurse" in several hours later and the nurse actually said "hes not paralyzed because if he was he would be ****ting and pissing on himself" and that was her only conclusion. A couple days later the man died because of neglect by the local county jail.

    This is my county too.

    In the end the family of Eugine Gruber sued and got a settlement of 1.75 million.

    Of course the assholes who actually broke his neck got a slap on the wrist and the "nurse" was sent for more "training."

    As far as I'm concerned they killed this man.

  4. #124
    Educator Soupnazi630's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    11-08-14 @ 09:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    855

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Both me an my entire family are activists for holding these prisons accountable for the deaths of people who are innocent until proven guilty (those held in county jails)...

    Read this story - and this man isn't the first either.

    Death of Lake County jail inmate Eugene Gruber ruled homicide - Chicago Tribune

    ^^ these guards broke this guys neck, thew him in a cell while he was screaming that he couldn't move. They called the "nurse" in several hours later and the nurse actually said "hes not paralyzed because if he was he would be ****ting and pissing on himself" and that was her only conclusion. A couple days later the man died because of neglect by the local county jail.

    This is my county too.

    In the end the family of Eugine Gruber sued and got a settlement of 1.75 million.

    Of course the assholes who actually broke his neck got a slap on the wrist and the "nurse" was sent for more "training."

    As far as I'm concerned they killed this man.
    YEs but that is not what the thread is about.

    The thread is about the number nation wide of people who die in jail over a decade, which is a very small umber in a statistical sense.

    Of course if an inmate is killed in jail justice needs to be served, what is ignored here however is that every one dies and it is most often unpredictable when they will die. Another way of putting it is that someone is GOING to die in jail sooner or later it is simply inevitable. The vast majority of those who die in jail die of natural causes it is not a reflection on the jail or criminal justice system. It is simple fact whereever people live they will also die.

  5. #125
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Both me an my entire family are activists for holding these prisons accountable for the deaths of people who are innocent until proven guilty (those held in county jails)...

    Read this story - and this man isn't the first either.

    Death of Lake County jail inmate Eugene Gruber ruled homicide - Chicago Tribune

    ^^ these guards broke this guys neck, thew him in a cell while he was screaming that he couldn't move. They called the "nurse" in several hours later and the nurse actually said "hes not paralyzed because if he was he would be ****ting and pissing on himself" and that was her only conclusion. A couple days later the man died because of neglect by the local county jail.

    This is my county too.

    In the end the family of Eugine Gruber sued and got a settlement of 1.75 million.

    Of course the assholes who actually broke his neck got a slap on the wrist and the "nurse" was sent for more "training."

    As far as I'm concerned they killed this man.
    Yes, they did kill the man through neglect and, though without all the facts, it seems they should have been fired, as well as charged with a crime.

    The moral of the story is that there are bad people everywhere, both inside and outside of jail. I'm grateful most of them are inside.

  6. #126
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    10-30-14 @ 12:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,908

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    YEs but that is not what the thread is about.

    The thread is about the number nation wide of people who die in jail over a decade, which is a very small umber in a statistical sense.

    Of course if an inmate is killed in jail justice needs to be served, what is ignored here however is that every one dies and it is most often unpredictable when they will die. Another way of putting it is that someone is GOING to die in jail sooner or later it is simply inevitable. The vast majority of those who die in jail die of natural causes it is not a reflection on the jail or criminal justice system. It is simple fact whereever people live they will also die.
    Where I live it happens too much...

    My parents did a documentary on this.......

    iFramed - YouTube

    Yeah progressives this **** happens to white folks too.

  7. #127
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    10-30-14 @ 12:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,908

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    YEs but that is not what the thread is about.

    The thread is about the number nation wide of people who die in jail over a decade, which is a very small umber in a statistical sense.

    Of course if an inmate is killed in jail justice needs to be served, what is ignored here however is that every one dies and it is most often unpredictable when they will die. Another way of putting it is that someone is GOING to die in jail sooner or later it is simply inevitable. The vast majority of those who die in jail die of natural causes it is not a reflection on the jail or criminal justice system. It is simple fact whereever people live they will also die.
    Its a light higher than what those alleged statistics show.... I can name at least 10 cases over the past 2 years just in my area where people died in jail (not prison but jail)...

    Hell, just a couple of weeks ago some kid hung himself in Cook "Crook" County.

    Death in these jail happens all the times and in some county jails you're safer on the streets than you are locked up.

    Hell, in prison the murder per capita rate is higher than some of Chicagos worst neighborhoods.

  8. #128
    Educator Soupnazi630's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    11-08-14 @ 09:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    855

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Its a light higher than what those alleged statistics show.... I can name at least 10 cases over the past 2 years just in my area where people died in jail (not prison but jail)...

    Hell, just a couple of weeks ago some kid hung himself in Cook "Crook" County.

    Death in these jail happens all the times and in some county jails you're safer on the streets than you are locked up.

    Hell, in prison the murder per capita rate is higher than some of Chicagos worst neighborhoods.
    What constitutes an area and how many jails are in it?

    10 in 2 years is not a lot.

    Suicide can only be prevented not eliminated the staff cannot be held accountable for that.

    Your claims that you are safer on the streets and that the murder rate per caita is higher are absolutely false claims. You cannot back them up with comparable per capita murder rates which are lower.

  9. #129
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    10-30-14 @ 12:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,908

    Re: Death Sentence: 'Alarming' number of inmates dying in local US jails

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    What constitutes an area and how many jails are in it?

    10 in 2 years is not a lot.

    Suicide can only be prevented not eliminated the staff cannot be held accountable for that.

    Your claims that you are safer on the streets and that the murder rate per caita is higher are absolutely false claims. You cannot back them up with comparable per capita murder rates which are lower.
    Every county has a jail, I suppose cook has a couple but the average is 1 per county.

    The problem is population...... If you took Lake County (IL), Crook County and Lake County (IN) and clustered them - the murder rate would be higher than the national per capita in the outside world.

    I suppose my point is that urban jails are by far more dangerous than rural jails...

    Crook County Jail is worse than any prison in the United States as far as violence and that facility can only hold 2500 tops but it's more like 3500.

    I suppose my point is that people kill people regardless if they have a gun or the creativity to make a weapon given what they have available to them.

    Either way it's disturbing how a man can walk into a place like 26&Cal (cook county) on a weed charge and walk out a killer for defending himself..... But that's the system and how it works... Of course some assholes will say "don't smoke weed."

Page 13 of 13 FirstFirst ... 3111213

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •