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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    A former TSA supervisor told me that the TSA workers who search checked baggage are not under video or other type of surveillance. Little is done to prevent them for stealing or unnecessarily invading our privacy.

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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

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    Confessions of an ex-TSA agentHow about we cut the trolling out and make sure posts are actually ON TOPIC in some way, okay?

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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    The government knows why we don't take them seriously... yet what irk's me about the article is how everyone knew from the start that the scanners were utter ****, and yet the government sold it to people to show they were doing something about terrorism, even if it was ineffective and made for TSA jokes of the bodies they reviewed. Most people don't care about the humiliation as long as it was effective - in this case it wasn't. The joke is on us... we paid for a system that basically provided us some added radiation and entertainment for TSA agents. We could have paid for PS3's and been better off.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The government knows why we don't take them seriously... yet what irk's me about the article is how everyone knew from the start that the scanners were utter ****, and yet the government sold it to people to show they were doing something about terrorism, even if it was ineffective and made for TSA jokes of the bodies they reviewed. Most people don't care about the humiliation as long as it was effective - in this case it wasn't. The joke is on us... we paid for a system that basically provided us some added radiation and entertainment for TSA agents. We could have paid for PS3's and been better off.
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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    You want to know what I don't understand?

    What the manufacturer of the Rapiscan machines were thinking calling a machine that was going to show people nude (admittedly in blobby, black and white, form) a name that when read wrong could be pronounced "Rapey Scan".

    I mean, you'd think SOMEONE in the marketting department would've saw that and went "Guys...um....can we do something a little less rapey for the name?"

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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    TSA is a joke, but so are libertarians.
    Our ideology would never allow the TSA and these scanner machines that are good for nothing but seeing people naked and exposing their secrets, be that surgeries, missing parts of their body, or otherwise. I guess losers that are good for nothing but violating the rights of people and being all around assholes and thugs have to criticize those that want nothing but freedom though. How else would they be worth anyones time. Don't worry about it though you can pretend to not follow any sort of ideology and keep on agreeing with everything liberals say and I won't let you on the fact that I noticed to much. It's the least I can do for someone that wants to violate my second amendment rights and yet has the balls to enlist in the military as if they actually care to protect the peoples rights.
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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Sounds like an ideology to me.
    His ideology is basically ignore everything but effectiveness. It's a not a very sound ideology and is prone to lead to tyranny. He can practice it if he wants, but many things that are effective are also oppressive. Without anything else guiding you there is really nothing stopping the natural flow of things. He seems to think that all ideology does is hold back progress, but libertarian ideology is designed to restrain power of a dangerous organization and empower the people, not to hold back progress.
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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Well I never said we need a big powerful government looking after us and spying on us, that's a straw man and the hyperbole is the obvious ridiculous exaggeration. Anyway sorry I feel libertarianism is a joke, its unrealistic, has no historical background, seems to be based purely off ideology rather than pragmatism. And that's really the sticker for me, ideology is probably one of the most dangerous things that people can follow as if there's some magical set of rules that if you follow everything will turn out well in the end. I'm a pragmatist, I'm about solving problems, getting things done, and doing things that make sense without worrying about whether they pass some ideological litmus test.

    For example in that other topic about seat belts we have people arguing that seat belt laws are just government tyranny despite the fact that there's no benefit to not having these laws and every benefit in having them. But it doesn't pass the ideological litmus test so throw out the common sense and march lock step with what the ideology says.
    Any ideology has to be mixed with a large dose of reality if it's going to work in the real world, on that I agree.

    But, I think we'd be better off to mix libertarian ideology, rather than the statist ideology of the major parties (yep, both of them, not just the Democrats) with that reality. We'd have a much more palatable mixture.
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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Any ideology has to be mixed with a large dose of reality if it's going to work in the real world, on that I agree.

    But, I think we'd be better off to mix libertarian ideology, rather than the statist ideology of the major parties (yep, both of them, not just the Democrats) with that reality. We'd have a much more palatable mixture.
    I don't want this to become all about libertarians. My only point with that comments was that only libertarians actually want to try something different. Republicans put TSA in place, and democrats want to keep it there. The benefit to libertarian ideology, as regards pragmatism, is that you can have both. Libertarians will leave you alone to be pragmatic, and will ask nothing of you when their ideology doesn't produce the results that make sense to Wiseone, who even though he apologized (Anyway sorry I feel libertarianism is a joke), I don't feel like it was sincere...

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    Re: Confessions of an ex-TSA agent

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The government knows why we don't take them seriously... yet what irk's me about the article is how everyone knew from the start that the scanners were utter ****, and yet the government sold it to people to show they were doing something about terrorism, even if it was ineffective and made for TSA jokes of the bodies they reviewed. Most people don't care about the humiliation as long as it was effective - in this case it wasn't. The joke is on us... we paid for a system that basically provided us some added radiation and entertainment for TSA agents. We could have paid for PS3's and been better off.
    Whenever that's they're reason for pushing for something, expect that something to be bull****.
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