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    Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's executive

    Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's executive orders | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Attorney General Eric Holder couldn't explain the constitutional basis for executive orders such as President Obama's delay of the employer mandate because he hasn't read the legal analysis -- or at least, hasn't seen it in a long time.

    "I'll be honest with you, I have not seen -- I don't remember looking at or having seen the analysis in some time, so I'm not sure where along the spectrum that would come," Holder replied when Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, asked him to explain the nature of Obama's constitutional power to delay the mandate.

    Lee had based his question on a standard legal test, first described by Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, who said the president's authority to issue executive orders is strongest when he does so with the backing of Congress (category one), more dubious when he issues an order pertaining to a topic on which Congress has not passed a law (category two), and weakest when the executive order is "incompatible with a congressional command" (category three), to use Lee's paraphrase.
    This should be pretty fundamental stuff for a Constitutional scholar and his Attorney General. All this should be documented prior to drafting and signing an EO.
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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

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    This should be pretty fundamental stuff for a Constitutional scholar and his Attorney General. All this should be documented prior to drafting and signing an EO.
    Are we saying that Holder's memory is documentation?
    Or that the analysis which Holder hasn't seen in some time is not a document?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Are we saying that Holder's memory is documentation?
    Or that the analysis which Holder hasn't seen in some time is not a document?
    Do you think that they ask surprise questions, or do you think Holder gets a heads up for testifying? It's not like he couldn't order the paperwork brought over.
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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

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    This should be pretty fundamental stuff for a Constitutional scholar and his Attorney General. All this should be documented prior to drafting and signing an EO.
    But if, say, the person(s) engaged in this activity didn't care about the Constitutional basis - whether one exists or not - then that person(s) probably wouldn't bother to investigate.

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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

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    This should be pretty fundamental stuff for a Constitutional scholar and his Attorney General. All this should be documented prior to drafting and signing an EO.
    Eric Holder a "Constitutional Scholar" ?

    That's like claiming that Obama has upheld the oath of office he took. >" I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    Obama preserving protecting and defending the Constitution.

    I suppose the only reason articles of impeachment haven't been drawn up is the CATCH-22 of the oath of office. >"Best of my ability'<

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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

    I almost pissed in my pants with Obama said " he taught the constitution for 10 years" at the SOTU....

    another bold face lie..

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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

    I doubt Holder even cares if Marse Barack's EO's are constitutional.
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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

    It must be the same basis that was used for the creation of a, cabinet level, federal department of education - an imaginary federal power granted to itself and by itself yet never mentioned in the constitution. It appears that if something contrary to the constitution is encted into federal law (meaning only that it was popular at the time) or has been done before (precedent established?) then it gets a special SCOTUS pass. PPACA seemed to fall into this category since 4 justices said it was not constitutiopnal based on commerce, 4 justices said it was constitutional based on commerce and one justice though calling it a tax made it OK just to break the tie.
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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

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    But if, say, the person(s) engaged in this activity didn't care about the Constitutional basis - whether one exists or not - then that person(s) probably wouldn't bother to investigate.
    I can almost guarantee that frantic searching will now commence, in order to have some sort of rational-sounding explanation ready! UNLESS this is bait meant to prove that Obama knows everything better than anyone else, which will prove how brilliant he is, which would not only validate his personal belief in himself, but would reaffirm to his followers that he really is worthy of adoration when he smugly explains why he is legally correct in what he does!

    Greetings, humbolt.

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    Re: Attorney General Eric Holder can't explain constitutional basis for Obama's execu

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I can almost guarantee that frantic searching will now commence, in order to have some sort of rational-sounding explanation ready! UNLESS this is bait meant to prove that Obama knows everything better than anyone else, which will prove how brilliant he is, which would not only validate his personal belief in himself, but would reaffirm to his followers that he really is worthy of adoration when he smugly explains why he is legally correct in what he does!

    Greetings, humbolt.
    Hey Pol. I think you're right. Obama did say in 2007 that he was a constitutional law professor and that unlike Bush, he actually respects it. I think he has problems with the ACA and it's implementation, but I'm certain they can find someone of some value somewhere who'll support their position. Maybe John Roberts isn't busy this Friday. I really think that Obama has reached the end of his rope and is willing to do damn near anything to salvage what looks more and more like an ugly ship wreck.

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