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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No its not.People complaining that minimum wage needs to be increased should be paying all their employees at least the wage they want minimum wage increased to.Interns are doing work and as such they should be paid money for that work.
    Exactly comparing apples to oranges, as you pointed out the two are different and need different approaches.

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    There's teaching position "shortages" everywhere (including my state). But there are multiple variables which continue to make it so. Likewise, I'd have to go through the license process (again) if I go to another state. I am certainly not opposed to doing something to get a job (and of course, I'd go far below education level to "get by" while looking), but I find it rather peculiar that you'd take a single individual and then try to spread it outward. There are plenty of fields which haven't grown or accepted new employees as they were projected to, students take on an enormous debt burden, and in many fields, are expected to do far more and get compensated far less (including internships, temporary work, etc. to "get the foot in the door"-regardless if this actually happens). It's the reality we face. For my situation, I don't mind taking on debt to get the education that I was told I could never have even if I wanted to, but I know where my skill sets are, and I know what fields I can and cannot realistically gun for. It just so happens that the math and science sector are places where I could never travel. I have to take my skills elsewhere, and I am certainly trying. For a lot of other people in my generation, there are a great many variables which explain why they too cannot gain entrance into the market, even those that were where all the energy was supposed to be.
    there is the issue, debt. No one planning on teaching should be going into debt for their education. Jesus Christ this is not rocket science. A simple ROI would tell someone that is foolish

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yep, that sums up the "libertarian-right" philosophy pretty well. My personal story is a good one, so everyone else who isn't as fortunate must be doing something wrong and doesn't deserve help. I must be superior, because I don't recognize good fortune.



    Half my law class cannot find work as lawyers. And this is even after working unpaid internships for "experience" all through law school.



    And, of course, moving isn't a hugely expensive proposition or a risky gamble at all. A whole lot of recent college graduates had to move back in with their families... because they can't afford to live anywhere else.

    How dense do you have to be to keep pretending that there isn't a serious shortage of work for young people to do, and even less that will pay enough to live?
    How dense does one have to be not to recoginze irresponsible behavior? Maybe it is beyond your grasp

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    That's not true.

    NJ doesn't offer any "handouts" that TX, KY, and AL don't also offer.

    The cost of living is high in NJ because we're among those states with the highest average income.

    If people can afford to pay more for stuff (and many Jerseymen can) businesses will charge more for stuff.

    That works out okay if you're at or above the average state income of about $70,000 a year.

    But if you're on the low end, making closer to the national average of $49,000, or in the lowest two quintiles (averaging $28,000 or $11,000 respectively), getting by in NJ can be a real bear.

    The same is true for NY, CA, and a number of other Northeastern states.
    they tax the hell out of their residents, the cost of living their is poltical, nothing more

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Liberals are really pushing raising the minimum wage for 2014. Thirty states have put forward bills to increase it, and Democrats have made this issue part of their political strategy for this year. Yet, a new study from the Employment Policies Institute (EPI) has exposed the proponents of raising the minimum wage of their "hypocrisy." It seems that 96% of Democrats who support such measures don't pay their interns.

    The abstract of the EPI study noted that "the same Members of Congress who are supporting a 40% wage hike on private sector employers are simultaneously failing to provide any wages to their own employee interns."

    Last year, I wrote for Newsbusters about how the media rail about the gender wage gap, but seem to ignore that the Obama White House paid their female staffers 88.3% of what their male ones earn.

    96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Don
    So what? I was an unpaid intern at a Fortune 500 company back when I was in college, I did well, and spent 14 years working for that company in progressively more responsible jobs. Is the concept of the unpaid internship such a foreign concept? I guess it is when you have to use it as a silly prop to argue against something you are not for, but it is a pretty weak, and overly sensationalistic ploy.
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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    there is the issue, debt. No one planning on teaching should be going into debt for their education. Jesus Christ this is not rocket science. A simple ROI would tell someone that is foolish
    It isn't rocket science, which is why I have a rather simple question: how exactly do I not go into debt getting my education? It's a wee bit difficult financing at least 15 thousand dollars a year, without going into debt, and not splitting too much attention between the job and one's school status. You're completely out of touch with reality.
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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It isn't rocket science, which is why I have a rather simple question: how exactly do I not go into debt getting my education? It's a wee bit difficult financing at least 15 thousand dollars a year, without going into debt, and not splitting too much attention between the job and one's school status. You're completely out of touch with reality.
    No you are, you plan for it. We have three kids, all went to school debt free, and they worked while attending paying for their books and spending cash. You lack of planning is painting a clearer picture here

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    No you are, you plan for it. We have three kids, all went to school debt free, and they worked while attending paying for their books and spending cash. You lack of planning is painting a clearer picture here
    My lack of planning? Go on, please explain this to me. I'd love to hear this. Please lecture me about my finances and my personal history.

    Good God man. Cut the crap and stop this audaciousness.
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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Exactly comparing apples to oranges, as you pointed out the two are different and need different approaches.
    It is not comparing apples and oranges.Its hypocritical for people to demand a minimum wage increase when they are not even paying all their employees a wage.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    My lack of planning? Go on, please explain this to me. I'd love to hear this. Please lecture me about my finances and my personal history.

    Good God man. Cut the crap and stop this audaciousness.
    You failed to do so, nothing to explain.

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