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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Non-paid internships should be outlawed if with a for-profit business or a government entity. It is exactly contrary to minimum wage laws and is a scam that needs to be prohibited. Television shows and actors who make millions a year will use unpaid interns to shine their shoes and kiss their ass calling it being an intern.

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    And 96% of Republicans who disapprove of the minimum wage hike have reportedly burnt toast in the last 12 months. Whether or not it is the right thing to do has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not politicians are douchebags.
    If unpaid internships for for-profit business is legal, then the minimum wage is invalid. Just pay less than minimum and call it an "internship." A person can "intern" at a McDonalds to learn the fast food industry, and get $3 an hour to cover any potential expenses while paying $0 salary because it's an internship.

    There is no justification in free employees for a for-profit business calling it an internship.

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Are you saying that people who work minimum wage put out little or no effort to improve themselves? Or that if given the choice to earn a higher wage through harder work they would decline?
    If a person working minimum wage cared about improving themselves, they wouldn't be raising a family on minimum wage.
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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do conservatives here support removal of minimum wage entirely?
    It seems that way sometimes, but no, not all of them do.

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Seems to be very unchristian to talk about poverty as if being poor is a sin.

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    it is not the right thing to do. Minimum wage or jobs for people with no skill or in other words entry level. Just because someone doesn't have enough sense to better themselves should not fall to the rest of us to make up the difference. That is what is wrong with NY, CA, and NJ. The cost of living in those states is ridiculous because of all the various levels of handouts.
    What does this have to do with how much politicians pay interns?

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If unpaid internships for for-profit business is legal, then the minimum wage is invalid. Just pay less than minimum and call it an "internship." A person can "intern" at a McDonalds to learn the fast food industry, and get $3 an hour to cover any potential expenses while paying $0 salary because it's an internship.

    There is no justification in free employees for a for-profit business calling it an internship.
    So you think internships should be illegal?

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    So everyone takes on the chin because these highly educated and skilled workers you speak of did not do market research on demand for their educations after leaving college? You know if you are stupid enough to major in art history and then bitch about the job market, that is on you.
    Almost no one gets a degree in art history. People who study business, biology, medicine, advertising, psychology, or, like me, law, are getting hung out to try, expected to work for free for several years before the system deigns to pay us anything. But all it takes to poke a hole in this ever so stupid post is just "no, of course not everyone who is struggling is highly educated and doing everything right, just a lot." And "market research"? Really? That may be the dumbest thing I've heard in this discussion yet. The market is very clear to everyone. There is high turnover and dozens of jobs in just every single field... and ten times that many people competing for them. In every single field.

    As I said, blame and self-aggrandizement. That's all you've got. You have no idea what reality is like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    So you think internships should be illegal?
    Actually, there are several lawsuits contending that many are. Internships are supposed to be training. They are not supposed to be doing a job for free. Most internships are just the latter. Do a job that should (and often used to) be compensated with a salary for free in exchange for "experience". Those "first jobs" that people used to get... those are expected to be done for free now.
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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Almost no one gets a degree in art history. People who study business, biology, medicine, advertising, psychology, or, like me, law, are getting hung out to try, expected to work for free for several years before the system deigns to pay us anything. But all it takes to poke a hole in this ever so stupid post is just "no, of course not everyone who is struggling is highly educated and doing everything right, just a lot." And "market research"? Really? That may be the dumbest thing I've heard in this discussion yet. The market is very clear to everyone. There is high turnover and dozens of jobs in just every single field... and ten times that many people competing for them. In every single field.

    As I said, blame and self-aggrandizement. That's all you've got. You have no idea what reality is like.



    Actually, there are several lawsuits contending that many are. Internships are supposed to be training. They are not supposed to be doing a job for free. Most internships are just the latter. Do a job that should (and often used to) be compensated with a salary for free in exchange for "experience". Those "first jobs" that people used to get... those are expected to be done for free now.
    My son is 28, majored in finance. Has had 3 employers since getting out and still gets offers. He lives in a small market. I call bull**** on someone that is skilled saying they can't find work.

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    Re: 96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Donít Pay Their Interns

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    My son is 28, majored in finance. Has had 3 employers since getting out and still gets offers. He lives in a small market. I call bull**** on someone that is skilled saying they can't find work.
    Read more. In my fields, the expected retirements that were supposed to start by the time I graduated high school and through my undergrad (opening up a vast number of decently paid positions) are not happening. Heck, even the much needed teaching positions cannot be filled, because we can't afford to live in the town or city (not that oil related jobs get you a place to live anyway). Even in higher ed, adjuncts are playing the unfulfilled waiting game.
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