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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    and keep living in some fantasy world.....

    If ever, you are privy of some behind the scenes stuff of what really goes on with these people in regards to many local Law enforcement use of force stuff, you would change your tune
    Oh I agree that local law enforcement is out of control. They are not who you mentioned, nor who I was responding about.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Oh I agree that local law enforcement is out of control. They are not who you mentioned, nor who I was responding about.
    It's, the FBI or US Attorney's Office not local LE that you should be wary about

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And again, The claim that he was gentle soul is revealed to be false by his record.

    That is what it goes to, and why it was provided. And is relevant to the claim that he was a gentle soul when obviously he wasn't.
    And you want to sit there and pretend like you do not know that?
    Absurdity at it's best.

    Just like bringing up the absurdity of retroactive death penalty when that isn't even what happened.


    Try to focus.
    His violent past goes directly to the claim of his being a gentle soul. He wasn't.
    He was a violent person.
    It was stated that was it was provided for. Not in reference to anything that happened that night that he caused by resisting.



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    His being a gentle soul or not is not what the case is about. It's about whether or not the police were justified in their actions. So bringing it up would seem to be saying "this is why they were justified."

    Why do you think they were justified? Were they justified because he wasn't a "gentle soul?" That's ludicrous.


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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    His being a gentle soul or not is not what the case is about. It's about whether or not the police were justified in their actions. So bringing it up would seem to be saying "this is why they were justified."

    Why do you think they were justified? Were they justified because he wasn't a "gentle soul?" That's ludicrous.
    Wow. You seem not to understand what the topic is.
    It is about a rally for a supposedly "gentle soul", who, as I showed, wasn't a gentle soul as claimed in the OP.
    So, what you do not understand about that, or why you oppose my showing the provided information was false, is irrelevant.
    It was applicable to what was stated in the OP.


    As for the discussing the specific case. There are other threads for that.
    And the evidence is in the Officers' favor, and they were justified in their actions. Kelly was resiting with great force. Multiple tasering had no effect. And it took many Officers to get him subdued.
    In the process Kelly's chest was inadvertently crushed, which lead to asphyxiation.

    Nothing criminal happened, as determined by a Jury who saw more evidence than you or I have.


    If you are interested in what the Defense presented to the Jury, as well as the evidence they pointed out in the video and the contradictions from the examiner. Then feel free to read what is at the following link.
    You just might come to understand why the jury found them not guilty.

    Kelly Thomas Trial Update: Defense tells jury to analyze case 'without the emotion' | 89.3 KPCC
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wow. You seem not to understand what the topic is.
    It is about a rally for a supposedly "gentle soul", who, as I showed, wasn't a gentle soul as claimed in the OP.
    So, what you do not understand about that, or why you oppose my showing the provided information was false, is irrelevant.
    It was applicable to what was stated in the OP.


    As for the discussing the specific case. There are other threads for that.
    And the evidence is in the Officers' favor, and they were justified in their actions. Kelly was resiting with great force. Multiple tasering had no effect. And it took many Officers to get him subdued.
    In the process Kelly's chest was inadvertently crushed, which lead to asphyxiation.

    Nothing criminal happened, as determined by a Jury who saw more evidence than you or I have.


    If you are interested in what the Defense presented to the Jury, as well as the evidence they pointed out in the video and the contradictions from the examiner. Then feel free to read what is at the following link.
    You just might come to understand why the jury found them not guilty.

    Kelly Thomas Trial Update: Defense tells jury to analyze case 'without the emotion' | 89.3 KPCC
    He was on the ground before they tazed him. Did you watch the video, or not? At one point the officers comment on how much blood there is, but continue. I don't see why it took 6 officers to bring him in. It only took 3 officers to do that to me when they hauled me to the loony bin, had me on the floor of my house, cuffed me up and that was that. He said many times, "I can't breathe," and "Okay, okay,," That's resisting arrest? You have no idea what you saw if you watched it. Here, I'll link it so you can finally inform yourself a little.



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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He was on the ground before they tazed him. Did you watch the video, or not? At one point the officers comment on how much blood there is, but continue. I don't see why it took 6 officers to bring him in. It only took 3 officers to do that to me when they hauled me to the loony bin, had me on the floor of my house, cuffed me up and that was that. He said many times, "I can't breathe," and "Okay, okay,," That's resisting arrest? You have no idea what you saw if you watched it. Here, I'll link it so you can finally inform yourself a little.

    You can continue to make the attempt to retry the case with the little evidence you have at hand or you can accept that a jury of folks who didn't know either the defendents or the dead fellow, who saw all the evidence and heard all the testimony, already made it's verdict.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You can continue to make the attempt to retry the case with the little evidence you have at hand or you can accept that a jury of folks who didn't know either the defendents or the dead fellow, who saw all the evidence and heard all the testimony, already made it's verdict.
    That's fine, they came to their verdict. I'm wanting Excon to tell me why the police were justified. I'm watching the video, and I don't really see him resisting arrest. In fact, he wasn't being arrested as they never mirandized him, so it was probably a trip to the psych ward. 6 officers had to come and taze him? A mental case, not even a criminal?

    The guy was clearly not right in the head, and Excon's trying to paint him as a dangerous criminal? Seriously, we don't even know why the police were talking to him in the first place, but it's obvious that the dude was nuts.

    I can accept the verdict. My beef is with Excon's characterization of the guy, which has absolutely no bearing on what happened that night.


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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No they were not.
    Their actions were legal.


    That is not called justice but vengeance. Which is illegal.


    Right!
    Folks should suffer for acting legally? That is just nuts to suggest such.
    I'm not sure which is more disturbing: That this incident happened at all, or that it has been adjudged "legal."
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You can continue to make the attempt to retry the case with the little evidence you have at hand or you can accept that a jury of folks who didn't know either the defendents or the dead fellow, who saw all the evidence and heard all the testimony, already made it's verdict.
    Doesn't mean much. Juries are found to have been in the wrong quite regularly.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Doesn't mean much. Juries are found to have been in the wrong quite regularly.
    In California, police are routinely acquitted even in the most egregious cases. I honestly cannot recall a single police officer in the decades I've lived here who was found guilty of abusing a citizen... or a spouse, for that matter. In most of California, and definitely in Southern California, a badge is really a license to beat, abuse, batter and kill.

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