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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If he was being helped, the help wasn't very effective.
    That would be an assumption.
    As folks who live on the street do receive help, but still remain on the streets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Let's look at the case without emotion, then, without looking at the face of a man beaten to a pulp.
    Yes we should do that. That also means canning the exaggerations like beaten to a pulp.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Did he present a threat to the police, one worthy of the use of deadly force?

    They didn't use deadly force.
    Just because a person died, does not mean deadly force was used.
    And what happened has already been stated.

    Their weight crushed his chest inadvertently.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How many times did they actually tase him?
    I have seen reports of four times.
    Yet doesn't matter, as it was ineffective against his resistance.


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    Just how dispassionately did the cops act while doing their duty and attempting to arrest this one lone individual?
    Matters not.
    Force is met with force. Force is elevated until the individual is subdued.
    They do not have to be dispassionate in attempting to subdue a resisting person and a person who is a danger to them by his resistance.
    And he grabbed the taser. Which is why he got hit in the face with it.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    That would be an assumption.
    As folks who live on the street do receive help, but still remain on the streets.

    Yes we should do that. That also means canning the exaggerations like beaten to a pulp.



    They didn't use deadly force.
    Just because a person died, does not mean deadly force was used.
    And what happened has already been stated.

    Their weight crushed his chest inadvertently.


    I have seen reports of four times.
    Yet doesn't matter, as it was ineffective against his resistance.


    Matters not.
    Force is met with force. Force is elevated until the individual is subdued.
    They do not have to be dispassionate in attempting to subdue a resisting person and a person who is a danger to them by his resistance.
    And he grabbed the taser. Which is why he got hit in the face with it.
    The victim died. He died for having committed vandalism, not for threatening anyone. Sounds like deadly force to me, whether it was intended to be or not.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    He died for having committed vandalism, not for threatening anyone. Sounds like deadly force to me, whether it was intended to be or not.
    You are being absurd.
    He died because he chose to resist. And he was threatening. Especially when he grabbed the taser.

    And dying inadvertently is not use of deadly force by any stretch of the imagination.

    Which is all moot at this point because the Jury found the Officers did not act in a criminal manner.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The victim died. He died for having committed vandalism, not for threatening anyone. Sounds like deadly force to me, whether it was intended to be or not.
    He didn't commit vandalism, or any other crime. A bouncer at a nearby bar confessed that at his boss's insistence, he had called 911 and made up the story so police would get the mentally ill homeless man away from the club entrance, where patrons couldn't see him.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It sounds to me as if he was a mentally ill person who should have been in an institution that might have helped him.

    But, looking at the "after" photo, there can be no justification for the use of such force, none. If he had a deadly weapon, and was threatening the cops with it, then a shooting might have been justified. If he didn't, then there is no conceivable reason for beating him to death.
    I'll give you some slack because, the overwhelming majority of lawyers (should know better) don't know a ****ing thing about use of force or police work

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    He didn't commit vandalism, or any other crime. A bouncer at a nearby bar confessed that at his boss's insistence, he had called 911 and made up the story so police would get the mentally ill homeless man away from the club entrance, where patrons couldn't see him.
    Exactly. The police were responding to a call, and upon further inspection, they found property in his pack that did not belong to him. They suspected a 496.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    His chest was crushed by the weight of the needed Officers to subdue him. That is inadvertent, but not criminal.
    Oh, I guess that makes it alright!

    At the least these cops committed voluntary manslaughter. If this boys dad had any sense of justice, he would be seeing these cops one at a time at some future date to discuss matters. Hopefully, the public will make the lives of these killers as miserable as possible in the mean time.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    At the least these cops committed voluntary manslaughter.
    No they were not.
    Their actions were legal.


    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    If this boys dad had any sense of justice, he would be seeing these cops one at a time at some future date to discuss matters..
    That is not called justice but vengeance. Which is illegal.


    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Hopefully, the public will make the lives of these killers as miserable as possible in the mean time.
    Right!
    Folks should suffer for acting legally? That is just nuts to suggest such.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No they were not.
    Their actions were legal.


    That is not called justice but vengeance. Which is illegal.


    Right!
    Folks should suffer for acting legally? That is just nuts to suggest such.
    Legal doesn't always mean just or right. Sometimes, adjustments need to be made to balance the scales.

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