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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ramos snapped and committed the criminal act. You cannot threaten to beat the **** out of someone in any circumstance. But hey...feel free to try it. Go find a cop, tell him to get out of your way and if he doesnt comply, ball up your fist and threaten to beat the **** out of him. And dont worry...late, you can explain to the judge that it was really just an empty threat to get a public servant to do what you pay him to do. Im thinking you should have smooooooooooooth sailing.
    You see, in a police state, it's perfectly OK for the cops to do what you're describing.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You see, in a police state, it's perfectly OK for the cops to do what you're describing.
    Part of the problem is that 1-people defend all cop actions regardless of the obvious criminal nature or that 2-people never consider the vast majority of cops that do a great job every day. We arent anywhere near a police state...but that doesnt mean we dont have a healthy dose of abusive ****heads that are cops.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No Dave, you are wrong.
    The only turd here is what you say. So get swallowing.
    It was a hollow threat made in an attempt to gain compliance from Kelly. It was not acted upon.
    Kelly's later actions caused both Officers to act.
    Black is white and hot is cold and dark is light. I see the substance of your nonsense and realize that you can never admit when you are wrong. The Flat Earth Society is looking for recruits and I think pretty soon your great demonstrable growth of intellectual vacuity will get you free admission.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    My take on this is precise.
    Obviously not.


    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He sent 15:27 engaged in a power play, getting more and more angry and frustrated every tic, until he snapped and committed a criminal act which led to a violent confrontation that didnt have to happen.

    Ridiculous.
    The time shows Ramos was far too patient with Kelly's non-cooperation.
    And there was no snapping. You are really making some absurd comments here.


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    He threatened to beat the **** out of him, then did, and his actions caused a suspects death.
    Wrong. Nothing but absurd exaggeration.
    He made a hollow threat in an attempt to gain compliance It that was not acted upon.

    Kelly's later actions caused both Officers to react. You know, the other Officer. Officer Wolfe, the who had nothing to do with the hollow threat.
    He was reacting to Kelly's actions just like Ramos was. Not upon any hollow threat.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Black is white and hot is cold and dark is light. I see the substance of your nonsense and realize that you can never admit when you are wrong. The Flat Earth Society is looking for recruits and I think pretty soon your great demonstrable growth of intellectual vacuity will get you free admission.
    You are the only one spouting nonsense.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Obviously not.



    Ridiculous.
    The time shows Ramos was far too patient with Kelly's non-cooperation.
    And there was no snapping. You are really making some absurd comments here.


    Wrong. Nothing but absurd exaggeration.
    He made a hollow threat in an attempt to gain compliance It that was not acted upon.

    Kelly's later actions caused both Officers to react. You know, the other Officer. Officer Wolfe, the who had nothing to do with the hollow threat.
    He was reacting to Kelly's actions just like Ramos was. Not upon any hollow threat.
    The time shows Ramos was acting like a child engaged in a power play with another child and when he didnt get his way he threatened to beat the **** out of the guy. And lets see...THREATENED to beat the **** out of him...BEAT the **** out of him. Dood is dead and only you find that a 'hollow threat.'

    No LE officer I have ever known would have responded like that. But since you think it is no big deal... I really encourage you try it with an officer and report back the results.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The time shows Ramos was acting like a child engaged in a power play with another child and when he didnt get his way he threatened to beat the **** out of the guy. And lets see...THREATENED to beat the **** out of him...BEAT the **** out of him. Dood is dead and only you find that a 'hollow threat.'
    No dude!


    Nothing but more absurd exaggeration. You clearly have lost it.
    He made a hollow threat in an attempt to gain compliance. Period. It that was not acted upon.

    Kelly's later actions caused both Officers to react. You know, the other Officer. Officer Wolfe, the who had nothing to do with the hollow threat.
    He was reacting to Kelly's actions just like Ramos was. Not upon any hollow threat.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No dude!


    Nothing but more absurd exaggeration. You clearly have lost it.
    He made a hollow threat in an attempt to gain compliance. Period. It that was not acted upon.

    Kelly's later actions caused both Officers to react. You know, the other Officer. Officer Wolfe, the who had nothing to do with the hollow threat.
    He was reacting to Kelly's actions just like Ramos was. Not upon any hollow threat.
    Thats what you call a 'criminal act.' But again...all you have to do is try it out. Hey...have someone tape it and put it on the YouTube for us...mmmkay?

    Its a very ugly mixture of comical, sad, and pathetic that you are actually defending the cop.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ramos snapped and committed the criminal act. You cannot threaten to beat the **** out of someone in any circumstance. But hey...feel free to try it. Go find a cop, tell him to get out of your way and if he doesnt comply, ball up your fist and threaten to beat the **** out of him. And dont worry...later, you can explain to the judge that it was really just an empty threat to get a public servant to do what you pay him to do. Im thinking you should have smooooooooooooth sailing.
    Absolutely and not with rank and file ....with chiefs of dept

    Verbal threat/alleged clinched fist means squat

    There's was NO follow through

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse

    Read up and inform yourself

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Absolutely and not with rank and file ....with chiefs of dept

    Verbal threat/alleged clinched fist means squat

    There's was NO follow through

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse

    Read up and inform yourself
    Please go try it...see how that works out for you. Now...I wont bother you with EVERY code...but the Texas and California law reads as thus...

    Texas Penal Code 22.07(a)(2) states that a "person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to ... place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury."

    California Penal Code 422 PC defines the crime of "criminal threats" (formerly known as terrorist threats).

    A "criminal threat" is when you threaten to kill or physically harm someone and

    that person is thereby placed in a state of reasonably sustained fear for his/her safety or for the safety of his/her immediate family,
    the threat is specific and unequivocal and
    you communicate the threat verbally, in writing, or via an electronically transmitted device.1

    Criminal threats can be charged whether or not you have the ability to carry out the threat...and even if you don't actually intend to execute the threat
    .

    You know...just in case you want to "read up"....

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