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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Anyone who defends these officers has no idea what it is like to deal with the cops when you are homeless or live in poverty. Nothing is more entertaining than seeing these posters look more and more foolish as they attempt to justify this street murder perpetrated by these civil servants.

    Hopefully, when the publicity dies down, some citizen will pay a visit to these policemen and show them what justice looks like.
    Your last remark serves you poorly.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ramos was a cop. Cops are trained to deal with difficult people. You dont get into power plays with difficult people. He did and he lost control and as a result, he first threatened, then beat the **** of a suspect, a suspect who later died directly due to the actions of a law enforcement officer. There is no mechanism by which a law enforcement officer can or should put their fist in someones face and threaten to beat the **** out of him. Had he done his job, it would have never gotten to that point. Your continued defense of the indefensible speaks volumes.
    Your take on this is absurd. Kelly was not being cooperative, that is not Ramos' fault.
    And there was no beating the **** out of anybody. You are knowingly exaggerating by saying such. It is dishonest.
    And as testified to, besides the foul language, his actions was within his training. So your statements are ridiculous. Which also makes it defensible.
    Your continued insistence that it isn't, and in getting personal, just shows you don't have a leg to stand on. At least not a logical leg.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Your take on this is absurd. Kelly was not being cooperative, that is not Ramos' fault.
    And there was no beating the **** out of anybody. You are knowingly exaggerating by saying such. It is dishonest.
    And as testified to, besides the foul language, his actions was within his training. So your statements are ridiculous. Which also makes it defensible.
    Your continued insistence that it isn't, and in getting personal, just shows you don't have a leg to stand on. At least not a logical leg.
    Ramos threatened to beat the **** out of Kelly and then followed through with the beating and what you refer to as a "HOLLOW THREAT," and the "HOLLOW THREAT" is from an armed man. Swallow that turd and you can stop chewing on it. Ramos should be in jail and it is obvious.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Your last remark serves you poorly.
    These policemen's actions served Kelly Thomas poorly.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Ramos threatened to beat the **** out of Kelly and then followed through with the beating and what you refer to as a "HOLLOW THREAT," and the "HOLLOW THREAT" is from an armed man. Swallow that turd and you can stop chewing on it. Ramos should be in jail and it is obvious.
    No Dave, you are wrong.
    The only turd here is what you say. So get swallowing.
    It was a hollow threat made in an attempt to gain compliance from Kelly. It was not acted upon.
    Kelly's later actions caused both Officers to act.
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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    These policemen's actions served Kelly Thomas poorly.
    'Poorly' is a bit of an understatement...but no doubt! The simple fact of the matter is that police officer who should have been trained to deal with difficult people, allowed a guy that was being difficult to frustrate him and he reacted poorly. The police officers failure caused the physical confrontation. Its just not that damn hard.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Your take on this is absurd. Kelly was not being cooperative, that is not Ramos' fault.
    And there was no beating the **** out of anybody. You are knowingly exaggerating by saying such. It is dishonest.
    And as testified to, besides the foul language, his actions was within his training. So your statements are ridiculous. Which also makes it defensible.
    Your continued insistence that it isn't, and in getting personal, just shows you don't have a leg to stand on. At least not a logical leg.
    My take on this is precise. My interpretation comes from working thousands of crisis calls with law enforcement officers dealing with people that were actually violent and aggressive, not just passive aggressive assholes. He sent 15:27 engaged in a power play, getting more and more angry and frustrated every tic, until he snapped and committed a criminal act which led to a violent confrontation that didnt have to happen. He threatened to beat the **** out of him, then did, and his actions caused a suspects death.

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Anyone who defends these officers has no idea what it is like to deal with the cops when you are homeless or live in poverty. Nothing is more entertaining than seeing these posters look more and more foolish as they attempt to justify this street murder perpetrated by these civil servants.

    Hopefully, when the publicity dies down, some citizen will pay a visit to these policemen and show them what justice looks like.
    Truly irresponsible attitude

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    My take on this is precise. My interpretation comes from working thousands of crisis calls with law enforcement officers dealing with people that were actually violent and aggressive, not just passive aggressive assholes. He sent 15:27 engaged in a power play, getting more and more angry and frustrated every tic, until he snapped and committed a criminal act which led to a violent confrontation that didnt have to happen. He threatened to beat the **** out of him, then did, and his actions caused a suspects death.
    Again, who snapped and committed a criminal act?

    Just answer the Q and leave the other irrelevant bs out

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    Re: Los Angeles California - 5000 Angelenos For Kelly Thomas Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again, who snapped and committed a criminal act?

    Just answer the Q and leave the other irrelevant bs out
    Ramos snapped and committed the criminal act. You cannot threaten to beat the **** out of someone in any circumstance. But hey...feel free to try it. Go find a cop, tell him to get out of your way and if he doesnt comply, ball up your fist and threaten to beat the **** out of him. And dont worry...later, you can explain to the judge that it was really just an empty threat to get a public servant to do what you pay him to do. Im thinking you should have smooooooooooooth sailing.
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