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Obama blames media for 'caricature'

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"The issue has been the inability of my message to penetrate the Republican base so that they feel persuaded that I’m not the caricature that you see on Fox News or Rush Limbaugh, but I’m somebody who is interested in solving problems and is pretty practical, and that, actually, a lot of the things that we’ve put in place worked better than people might think," Obama said.

"And as long as there’s that gap between perceptions of me within the average Republican primary voter and the reality, it’s hard for folks like John Boehner to move too far in my direction."


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It has nothing to do with his policies or personality, but rather his inability to convince you that conservatives are wrong. And so he cant get anything done because people wont allow Republicans in congress to go along with his policies. Because he hasnt been able to prove Rush or Fox wrong.

Does that sound rational to you? Heck, does it sound professional? Isnt it possible that either Obama is simply wrong, or that people dont beleive him?

He claims to be interested in solving problems, but rarely talks to congress or even his own appointees. He claims to be practical, but thinks govt micromanaging everyone is going to work? He thinks a lot of the things hes put into play worked better than people think. Ok, Ill give him that. Expectations are pretty low, so the fact that there was a Obamacare website at all is probably better than expected. I seem to recall Obama joking about shovel ready not being so shovel ready after all. GUess thats his idea of working better than expected?

As Ive said many times before, if Obama would simply get to work, instead of giving interviews, campaigning, and blaming everyone but himself for the poor performance of govt, maybe something would get done. He works a half a mile from Congress. Walk down the street and say hi.
 
His goal as POTUS was to fundamentally change America. He's put people in charge that are doing exactly that.

He'll just sit back and enjoy it's destruction.
 
It has nothing to do with his policies or personality, but rather his inability to convince you that conservatives are wrong. And so he cant get anything done because people wont allow Republicans in congress to go along with his policies. Because he hasnt been able to prove Rush or Fox wrong.

Does that sound rational to you? Heck, does it sound professional?
Isnt it possible that either Obama is simply wrong, or that people dont beleive him?
He claims to be interested in solving problems, but rarely talks to congress or even his own appointees. He claims to be practical, but thinks govt micromanaging everyone is going to work? He thinks a lot of the things hes put into play worked better than people think. Ok, Ill give him that. Expectations are pretty low, so the fact that there was a Obamacare website at all is probably better than expected. I seem to recall Obama joking about shovel ready not being so shovel ready after all. GUess thats his idea of working better than expected?

As Ive said many times before, if Obama would simply get to work, instead of giving interviews, campaigning, and blaming everyone but himself for the poor performance of govt, maybe something would get done. He works a half a mile from Congress. Walk down the street and say hi.
It's not either/or
 
His goal as POTUS was to fundamentally change America. He's put people in charge that are doing exactly that.

He'll just sit back and enjoy it's destruction.
As for the thread title, I have to be honest and say at his core I don't think he gives a flying **** what caricature people make of him.
Pure ideologues only care about the end result ... and if he can make the USA take a big leap to Socialism that will be damn near impossible to reverse, he'll be very happy to be seen by History as having done that.
 
To be fair, palin had the same complaint. In both cases the complaint is legitimate but useless. Public figures get made fun of. They should all get over it.
 
To be fair, palin had the same complaint. In both cases the complaint is legitimate but useless. Public figures get made fun of. They should all get over it.

She wasnt inacting policies though. She was just campaigning. Obama is claiming conservatives think his actions are wrong because of the conservative media telling them so.
 
She wasnt inacting policies though. She was just campaigning. Obama is claiming conservatives think his actions are wrong because of the conservative media telling them so.

Know, but my point remains. Obama needs to get over it
 
It has nothing to do with his policies or personality, but rather his inability to convince you that conservatives are wrong. And so he cant get anything done because people wont allow Republicans in congress to go along with his policies. Because he hasnt been able to prove Rush or Fox wrong.

Does that sound rational to you? Heck, does it sound professional? Isnt it possible that either Obama is simply wrong, or that people dont beleive him?

He claims to be interested in solving problems, but rarely talks to congress or even his own appointees. He claims to be practical, but thinks govt micromanaging everyone is going to work? He thinks a lot of the things hes put into play worked better than people think. Ok, Ill give him that. Expectations are pretty low, so the fact that there was a Obamacare website at all is probably better than expected. I seem to recall Obama joking about shovel ready not being so shovel ready after all. GUess thats his idea of working better than expected?

As Ive said many times before, if Obama would simply get to work, instead of giving interviews, campaigning, and blaming everyone but himself for the poor performance of govt, maybe something would get done. He works a half a mile from Congress. Walk down the street and say hi.


Obama should not be underestimated. He is masterful at politics and manipulation from the classical Alinsky style book.

Credit where credit is due. Obama is good at what he does....
 
His last statement in the OP is 100% correct.


"And if you like your policy, you can keep it. Period."

Maybe it's not so much a gap in perception as it is seeing through all the Obama bull****....??
 
It's not either/or

Absolutely correct! Sometimes in life, both either/or choices are proven wrong; but on the other hand, sometimes both either/or choices are 100 percent on the mark, and either, or both, are acceptable answers. Sad, but true...

Greetings, bubba. :2wave:
 
Know, but my point remains. Obama needs to get over it

Of course. I think the real issue though was that he's saying the conservative media is giving people the wrong idea. Duh, a liberal would say that, but isnt he also saying then that people cant decide for themselves? They can read liberal media if they want. They can see his speeches first hand. They know the facts of what hes doing. How is telling someone theyre brainwashed by choice, going to change their opinion of him that hes 'practical' and insterested in solutions, not complaints.
 
"If only Fox and Rush to tell people to agree with me..." LOL!
 
Of course. I think the real issue though was that he's saying the conservative media is giving people the wrong idea. Duh, a liberal would say that, but isnt he also saying then that people cant decide for themselves? They can read liberal media if they want. They can see his speeches first hand. They know the facts of what hes doing. How is telling someone theyre brainwashed by choice, going to change their opinion of him that hes 'practical' and insterested in solutions, not complaints.

I disagree with him in this case. The reason fox has a market is that people want to be a part of the distorted echo chamber, not the other way around.

A lot of people in this country have turned anger and outrage into a way of life. Being angry and pissed off is normal, in other words. (This is true on both sides of the spectrum by the way) and for fox to capitalize on that market, they have to keep up the hype which results in distorted portrayals of information. However it's not fox's fault. Again a lot of people simply want to be angry and will gravitate to whatever justifies it rather than deal with what is making them unhappy, which is the decline if the American empire in most cases. Which isn't really anybody's or any ideology's fault
 
What caricature is he talking about? Do you think he even knows?
 
Is this the best we can expect from Obama for the next few years? Him whining about how nobody understands him and about how that darned right-wing media is saying bad things about him?

Good Grief!!
 
Is this the best we can expect from Obama for the next few years? Him whining about how nobody understands him and about how that darned right-wing media is saying bad things about him?

Good Grief!!

Believe you are under-analyzing. If nothing else, Obama is a smart political player.

Anything he states is ultimately about the 2010 elections. Everything about his failures that he can correlate to racism will only excite his base. Can't really fault him for the effort. Politically it is a clever move.

And in the end, it's all about politics and power....
 
I disagree with him in this case. The reason fox has a market is that people want to be a part of the distorted echo chamber, not the other way around.

A lot of people in this country have turned anger and outrage into a way of life. Being angry and pissed off is normal, in other words. (This is true on both sides of the spectrum by the way) and for fox to capitalize on that market, they have to keep up the hype which results in distorted portrayals of information. However it's not fox's fault. Again a lot of people simply want to be angry and will gravitate to whatever justifies it rather than deal with what is making them unhappy, which is the decline if the American empire in most cases. Which isn't really anybody's or any ideology's fault

You forgot racist.
 
You forgot racist.

Generally I find racism to be fairly pretty evenly distributed among all political groups. Liberals tend to be more inclined to be ashamed of it while conservatives tend to be more inclined to be proud of it, so the appearance is worse for that particular group, but its a distortion of the real feelings in terms of frequency and occurrence, I think.
 
I don't think Obama understands that any such caricatures are ultimately more flattering than he deserves.
 
This thread displays that misguided caricature..You can bash the man, but just back up what your saying instead of screaming, "SOCIALIST KENYAN MARXIST MUSLIM!" at the top of your lungs.
 
Generally I find racism to be fairly pretty evenly distributed among all political groups. Liberals tend to be more inclined to be ashamed of it while conservatives tend to be more inclined to be proud of it, so the appearance is worse for that particular group, but its a distortion of the real feelings in terms of frequency and occurrence, I think.


Rather silly statement. But can't dismiss the possibility that you actually believe it.

Have any examples to support your comment....??
 
Rather silly statement. But can't dismiss the possibility that you actually believe it.

Have any examples to support your comment....??

Nothing I can document, just my every day interactions. By far Conservatives tend to be proud of all of their opinion, whether acceptable or not, while liberals tend to be more introspective and questioning and prone to shame, even of stuff that is acceptable.
 
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