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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I have no idea how it was used by whoever said it. Obama is a terrible president sure, but his relationship with Ayers does not make him worse or better.

    The Washington Post is the same as Fox News.
    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ype=blogs&_r=0

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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Who said or is even claiming any of that?
    https://www.google.com/search?q=obam...ient=firefox-a
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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The GOP has plenty of power to disrupt Obamacare on the state level. How many states refused to expand Medicare or set up exchanges?
    So how does that keep somebody from going to the national exchange? Medicare was not an issue in expansion and in fact many billions of dollars were taken out of Medicare to fund the rest of Obama's program. And the GOP wasn't able to stop that from happening..
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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So how does that keep somebody from going to the national exchange? Medicare was not an issue in expansion and in fact many billions of dollars were taken out of Medicare to fund the rest of Obama's program. And the GOP wasn't able to stop that from happening..
    Medicaid, not medicare. My bad.
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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Medicaid, not medicare. My bad.
    And how do those states that chose not to expand Medicaid affect the national exchange? Or those states that did expand Medicaid and it isn't working? How is that the fault of Fox News or Rush Limbaugh or the GOP?
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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Sarah Palin actually came up with that herself? Not bad.

    NY Times blog is the same as Fox News (obviously).

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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    And how do those states that chose not to expand Medicaid affect the national exchange?
    They push a lot more people onto the exchanges, for one.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Or those states that did expand Medicaid and it isn't working?
    Example?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    How is that the fault of Fox News or Rush Limbaugh or the GOP?
    It's the GOP governors/legislatures who are refusing to expand Medicaid or set up their own exchanges.

    I hate this source, but here's an analysis of the states that will benefit most from Obamacare. Suprise! It's the states that expanded Medicaid.

    Study: Medicaid Expansion Key Factor in Obamacare Effects - US News and World Report
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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Sarah Palin actually came up with that herself? Not bad.
    Except for the whole "misleading and insanely hyperbolic" part.

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    NY Times blog is the same as Fox News (obviously).
    Not really, but OK. That's a pretty irrelevant argument. The words came out of Palin's mouth; nobody in their right mind can dispute that.
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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    And how do those states that chose not to expand Medicaid affect the national exchange? Or those states that did expand Medicaid and it isn't working? How is that the fault of Fox News or Rush Limbaugh or the GOP?
    In the same ruling that showed PPACA was a new tax (on those making under 250,000 also), SCOTUS correctly argued that Medicaid expansions being forced by the Federal Government were not at all constitutional. And as such, this is the fault of Limbaugh and the GOP together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not really, but OK.
    You liking their blogs is not relevant here, they are labeled as blogs for a reason (because they are op-eds).

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    Re: Obama blames media for 'caricature'

    To get back to the main point, I think Obama's right that there have been some parts of his personality, policy positions and politics that have been distorted by many in the opposition party and its supporting media outlets. That said, whining about it now doesn't do a lick of good, and Obama would be better served doing his job than pissing and moaning that the Republicans aren't playing nice. Does he really expect them to? The Dems didn't exactly kiss George Bush's ass once the 9/11 honeymoon was over.
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