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    In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    And in particular, we seem to have a heavy belief that government is now too big, too powerful, and does too much.

    Gosh. I wonder what the electoral implications of that are.

    ...Republicans and independents are largely responsible for the overall decrease in satisfaction with government effectiveness in recent years. Satisfaction among Republicans and independents began to wane during President George W. Bush's final year in office. This may have reflected mounting public dissatisfaction with the Iraq war, coupled with the Democratic takeover of Congress after the 2006 midterm elections. Both groups' satisfaction plummeted still more between 2008 and 2011, and has since dipped further. Republicans' satisfaction went from a peak of 79% in 2005 to a low of 28% in each of the past two years. Meanwhile, Democrats' satisfaction has been remarkably steady, generally hovering near 50%, and is essentially the same as it was in 2004 under a Republican president. Democrats' satisfaction might have been much higher today, with a Democrat in the White House, if not for the twin problems of the economy and partisan gridlock that have tarnished the government's image among both parties. Satisfaction among Republicans, which has directly correlated with the party of the president in office, continues at its depressed level, with this year's reading tying the record low from 2013. Satisfaction among independents, meanwhile, has gone down 10 percentage points during that same time.



    One reason Americans are dissatisfied with how the government system is working is that they believe it is too big and powerful. Two-thirds of Americans (66%) are unhappy with the size and power of the federal government. These views potentially hamper President Barack Obama's ability to propose large-scale government solutions in his State of the Union speech next week. However, this problem is not a new one for the president. Roughly two-thirds of Americans have expressed this view consistently since at least 2011, after the measure jumped a full 10 points between 2008 and 2011.



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    So, yeah. Good luck getting Single Payer passed in the wake of Obamacare.

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    People are dissatisfied, sure, but when you get into the details of the typical conservative solutions they lose their appetite fast.

    Edit: Also, the trends in the graphs appear to have started when we invaded Iraq and when the economic downturn occurred. The relationship to Obamacare is vague, at best..
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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    And in particular, we seem to have a heavy belief that government is now too big, too powerful, and does too much.

    Gosh. I wonder what the electoral implications of that are.



    So, yeah. Good luck getting Single Payer passed in the wake of Obamacare.
    Electoral implications? Clearly not to much since many government downsizing options come with side policies that some may not like. For example, with strict restrictions on abortion/capital punishment/other issues or vice versa, dividing the group so much that the electoral impact is nullified. The ACA seems to be a uniting factor however for these groups, since after its announcing in 2008 there was a 10 point rise, probably due to the immense government spending and inefficiency that occurs because of socialised healthcare, as seen in the UK, where recently a man died in an ambulance after waiting for A&E for 4 hours. Once Obamacare has been repealed then the anti government feeling will revert back to the (likely out of office if ACA has been repealed) Democrats criticising the very same drone strikes and privacy infractions to which Obama is committing himself to now.
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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    Partisan hackery. You left out the poll that is featured in your title. Congressional gridlock is a key feature there. Not to mention the 65% comes from a combination of somewhat and very dissatisfied.

    The question didn't ask if the respondent thought government was too big- it asked if they were happy with the size and power- poor phrasing, even for Gallup. I'm sure many Liberals felt MORE should have been done. If you don't ask why and make one of these cute graphs for the reasons you tend to feed the trolls.

    You didn't include the bottom line- dysfunctional government topped the list of reasons why the dissatisfaction.

    But CONs have to look for what they can glean... and FYI your 'pronouncement' of a tough time for Obama to get a single payer system is faking a victory. Getting ACA was the goal, one step at a time, let the 'fear' pass from something new and then decide what to do next.

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    I notice the democrats never really change. Stagnant bunch they are. Might be the whole un-educated base and largely low information registered D's that just vote D. They hardly know if they are coming or going, nevermind having a decent understanding of the U.S. gov.

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    People are dissatisfied, sure, but when you get into the details of the typical conservative solutions they lose their appetite fast.

    Edit: Also, the trends in the graphs appear to have started when we invaded Iraq and when the economic downturn occurred. The relationship to Obamacare is vague, at best..
    The Majority of Americans have always opposed Obamacare:

    Date…......for..against
    Mar 10….39%...53%
    Nov 10….38%....54% Republicans gain 63 House seats and 6 Senate seats, Obama approval rate 45% approve 49% disapprove
    May 11….39%....52%
    Nov 11….39%....49%
    May 12….39%....49%
    Nov 12….42%....47% Obama wins presidential election, Obama Approval rate 51% approve 47% disapprove
    May 13….39%....49%
    Nov 13….39%....53%
    Today…..40%....55% Obama Approval rate 43% approve 51% disapprove

    The above compliments of RCP.

    I do think Obamacare is a part of the dissatisfaction with government, but just a part. When the majority of Americans do not want it, yet the government insist on it that will effect their attitude towards government. How many, it is hard to say.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The Majority of Americans have always opposed Obamacare:

    <Buncha numbers>

    I do think Obamacare is a part of the dissatisfaction with government, but just a part. When the majority of Americans do not want it, yet the government insist on it that will effect their attitude towards government. How many, it is hard to say.
    I never said it wasn't part of it, only that the link between that opposition and the general levels of dissatisfaction is vague.

    Certainly, Obamacare has nothing to do with those levels in 2002 or 2004, when these trends began on our graphs. We have to consider what was going in American politics at that time.

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    The scary thing to me is that 35% of the people approve of our bloated, expensive and corrupt federal government.

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    Re: In U.S., 65% Dissatisfied With How Gov't System Works

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    I never said it wasn't part of it, only that the link between that opposition and the general levels of dissatisfaction is vague.

    Certainly, Obamacare has nothing to do with those levels in 2002 or 2004, when these trends began on our graphs. We have to consider what was going in American politics at that time.
    Correct. We also have this from the same Gallup poll as the OP.

    Trend: Americans' Dissatisfaction With the Size and Power of Federal Government


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    Bottom Line

    Obama and the elected representatives in Congress have faced a tough audience in the American public in recent years, with the majority dissatisfied with the performance of government and concerned about its size and power. This year will be no different as the president prepares to speak to the nation next week. And even a slight majority of those in his own party are generally dissatisfied with how government is working. This dissatisfaction is also reflected in Gallup's separate question measuring Americans' perceptions of the most important problem facing the country; dysfunctional government is the top category mentioned this month.

    Outside of the president's party, unhappiness with federal government size and effectiveness has only grown during his time in office. Republican satisfaction with the government's effectiveness dropped dramatically after Obama's 2008 election, while that of independents fell a bit more gradually.

    All of that being said, I wonder if people are now looking at their government as a government that doesn't listen to the people anymore and a government that does not have the ability to solve the problems of America which leads to the huge dissatisfaction of government in total.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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