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Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

WTF? Maybe you should just get your news from the tabloids and spare me the schmucky comments. From what I can tell, there is no proof Christie "was being such an ass" at all, and if you have such proof, I have no doubt that many in the media will be looking forward to you offering it. All I've heard is rumor and innuendo with no verification at all. Until then I'm going to withhold my judgement. You can rush about screaming if you like.
You're the one that doesn't know how much damage Hoboken took or whether a couple 100K is reasonable. Perhaps until you get that information which is readily available, you should consider becoming educated about what you are poutraging against. Bless your heart.
 
You're the one that doesn't know how much damage Hoboken took or whether a couple 100K is reasonable. Perhaps until you get that information which is readily available, you should consider becoming educated about what you are poutraging against. Bless your heart.

I expressed only some skepticism of the rush to judgement. I really don't give a rats ass about Hoboken other than a claim that arose from the mayor which appears to be somewhat questionable, or at least unverified, and possibly unverifiable at all. The amount of aid Hoboken received is of little interest to me, and really has no bearing on the validity or not of the mayor's statements. That you think it does shows exactly where you're coming from, and it's hardly from the withholding of judgement camp.
 
Well since you don't know, perhaps you should just shut up. Hoboken is below sea level and took a huge hit.
Please be sure to give links to any idea that Obama has endorsed Christie's bull. Seems unlikely since no one until about a month ago even knew Christie was being such an ass and, as far as I know, Obama doesn't micro manage emergency aid sent to states.
Oh well, I guess you haters gotta hate, huh?

Because Obama's HUD reviewed such things.
Now, if you want to say Obama doesn't know what his HUD does ... or what his IRS does ... or his NSA does ... those are for other threads.
 
Because Obama's HUD reviewed such things.
Now, if you want to say Obama doesn't know what his HUD does ... or what his IRS does ... or his NSA does ... those are for other threads.
Apparently you are ignorant about accounting. Not spending money isn't usually noticed as an accounting issue or even a fraud issue unless or until it is shown to be a political issue or until someone complains to the Obama administration, which apparently was not done. Now, I disagree with her waiting, but I am a gal with way too much bravado and can't expect that everyone will choose the same as I would. I would've made sure to wear a bug of my own and other similar things so I would have proof and then I'd be all up in the media and the FEMA (not HUD, I don't think) administration. But that's me. Many people give up and feel instead as though the possible/probable outcome of putting up a fuss is worse than taking a hit. Having been hit many times for being outspoken, I can be symapthetic to that idea. In her case, at the time, perhaps she felt the hit to her city would be too much, though I do note in her favor that she still hasn't caved to Christie's demands.
 
Apparently you are ignorant about accounting.
Not spending money isn't usually noticed as an accounting issue or even a fraud issue unless or until it is shown to be a political issue or until someone complains to the Obama administration, which apparently was not done. Now, I disagree with her waiting, but I am a gal with way too much bravado and can't expect that everyone will choose the same as I would. I would've made sure to wear a bug of my own and other similar things so I would have proof and then I'd be all up in the media and the FEMA (not HUD, I don't think) administration. But that's me. Many people give up and feel instead as though the possible/probable outcome of putting up a fuss is worse than taking a hit. Having been hit many times for being outspoken, I can be symapthetic to that idea. In her case,
at the time, perhaps she felt the hit to her city would be too much,
though I do note in her favor that she still hasn't caved to Christie's demands.


Don't do that ... it's a silly obvious tactic that hurts the person's credibility who's trying it.
Other than that, I hear what you're saying .. but be careful.
Bottom line is that HUD approved of what Christie did or didn't do with the Federal disaster relief and there are enough questions about the totality of what Zimmer's saying to give anyone pause.
 
Don't do that ... it's a silly obvious tactic that hurts the person's credibility who's trying it.
Other than that, I hear what you're saying .. but be careful.
Bottom line is that HUD approved of what Christie did or didn't do with the Federal disaster relief and there are enough questions about the totality of what Zimmer's saying to give anyone pause.
Please provide any sort of proof HUD has final approval of individual monies spent regarding Sandy recovery, and/or that it is even HUD and not FEMA, and finally show you're not ignorant about accounting and show how an un-complained about lack of monies being spent would alert either organization, whichever is in charge of emergency relief and recovery efforts.
 
Please provide any sort of proof HUD has final approval of individual monies spent regarding Sandy recovery, and/or that it is even HUD and not FEMA, and finally show you're not ignorant about accounting and show how an un-complained about lack of monies being spent would alert either organization, whichever is in charge of emergency relief and recovery efforts.
Please provide an audio recording of Zimmer's alleged conversation with Guadagno.
Sorry, but you sound too much like a Dem or Union operative.
Am I close?
Hey ... I heard Wendy Davis in Texas built her persona on lies ... that must make you furious
 
Please provide an audio recording of Zimmer's alleged conversation with Guadagno.
Sorry, but you sound too much like a Dem or Union operative.
Am I close?
Hey ... I heard Wendy Davis in Texas built her persona on lies ... that must make you furious
I see, you state that you're ignorant, then get upset about being pegged as ignorant, then prove you're unable/unwilling to become educated about your ignorance and instead throw up a strawman about my position. Thank you for the clear representation of yourself. Bless your heart.
 
Please provide an audio recording of Zimmer's alleged conversation with Guadagno.
Sorry, but you sound too much like a Dem or Union operative.
Am I close?
Hey ... I heard Wendy Davis in Texas built her persona on lies ... that must make you furious

She did admit that her biography had "fuzzy" facts. Could that mean she didn't tell the truth? She's a politician, for God's sake...did you expect something different? :mrgreen:
 
I see, you state that you're ignorant, then get upset about being pegged as ignorant, then prove you're unable/unwilling to become educated about your ignorance
and instead throw up a strawman about my position. Thank you for the clear representation of yourself. Bless your heart.


THERE ... there it is again ... that's what I was talking about ... same plays from the same playbook.
 
Please provide any sort of proof HUD has final approval of individual monies spent regarding Sandy recovery, and/or that it is even HUD and not FEMA, and finally show you're not ignorant about accounting and show how an un-complained about lack of monies being spent would alert either organization, whichever is in charge of emergency relief and recovery efforts.

Maybe this will help you out a little with exactly who oversees what in Sandy relief funds: Tracking the Federal Sandy Aid Money One Year Later - NJ Spotlight

I you bother to read it, you will note that Hoboken received millions for upgrading it's terminal alone, not counting the funds dispersed to individuals, businesses and so on. The relief funds the mayor is referring to are apparently only those funds the local government itself directly received, and hardly represents the total funds distributed in Hoboken at all. I'll give you credit, though. It was a nice try.
 
She did admit that her biography had "fuzzy" facts. Could that mean she didn't tell the truth? She's a politician, for God's sake...did you expect something different? :mrgreen:
heh ... yeah ... she said some details weren't as tight as they should have been.
Is that special or what?
 
Maybe this will help you out a little with exactly who oversees what in Sandy relief funds: Tracking the Federal Sandy Aid Money One Year Later - NJ Spotlight

I you bother to read it, you will note that Hoboken received millions for upgrading it's terminal alone, not counting the funds dispersed to individuals, businesses and so on. The relief funds the mayor is referring to are apparently only those funds the local government itself directly received, and hardly represents the total funds distributed in Hoboken at all. I'll give you credit, though. It was a nice try.

ignorant
 
classic song but true to type comments
 
you first, since you brought up Obama first?
and now Christie has a charter school problem in Trenton with the indefinite suspension of four principals for speaking out?
from the union: trickle-down bullying :lamo:lamo
Evidence on Mr.Christie?
 
Why in hell are we in a nation of 315 million are we left with a choice of Clinton and Christie................................................. I want to scream but I don't have a mouth.

Because Democrats are moronic robots who don't care who governs them as long as they get free stuff.
 
Another steaming pile of hack .

Yeah, but in this case there's plenty of evidence. Current occupant promised to clean up government, and it's as clean as Chicago govt which is worse than we had.
 
Which is why you and I haven't seen any evidence of said accusations.
We do know why I$$A is banned from getting sensative documents, since he is a leaker .
Yeah, but in this case there's plenty of evidence. Current occupant promised to clean up government, and it's as clean as Chicago govt which is worse than we had.
 
Our Illinois Blagoyevich would be impressed with Christie's "pay-for-play" with Hurricane Sandy funds.
Especially since funds were to go to Christie's "Organized" friends .
 
Which is why you and I haven't seen any evidence of said accusations.
We do know why I$$A is banned from getting sensative documents, since he is a leaker .

Issa has what to do with this?
 
Our Illinois Blagoyevich would be impressed with Christie's "pay-for-play" with Hurricane Sandy funds.
Especially since funds were to go to Christie's "Organized" friends .

You might have a point with your claim that Christie is just a democrat.
 
Issa has what to do with this?
Now I realize you were comparing Christie to being better than Chicago politics.
Pretty low bar don't you think?
Chicago started down the Christie path in the 1920's with a GOP governor who was indicted along with the GOP Mayor and Capone .
 
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