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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    WTF? Maybe you should just get your news from the tabloids and spare me the schmucky comments. From what I can tell, there is no proof Christie "was being such an ass" at all, and if you have such proof, I have no doubt that many in the media will be looking forward to you offering it. All I've heard is rumor and innuendo with no verification at all. Until then I'm going to withhold my judgement. You can rush about screaming if you like.
    You're the one that doesn't know how much damage Hoboken took or whether a couple 100K is reasonable. Perhaps until you get that information which is readily available, you should consider becoming educated about what you are poutraging against. Bless your heart.
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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    You're the one that doesn't know how much damage Hoboken took or whether a couple 100K is reasonable. Perhaps until you get that information which is readily available, you should consider becoming educated about what you are poutraging against. Bless your heart.
    I expressed only some skepticism of the rush to judgement. I really don't give a rats ass about Hoboken other than a claim that arose from the mayor which appears to be somewhat questionable, or at least unverified, and possibly unverifiable at all. The amount of aid Hoboken received is of little interest to me, and really has no bearing on the validity or not of the mayor's statements. That you think it does shows exactly where you're coming from, and it's hardly from the withholding of judgement camp.

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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Well since you don't know, perhaps you should just shut up. Hoboken is below sea level and took a huge hit.
    Please be sure to give links to any idea that Obama has endorsed Christie's bull. Seems unlikely since no one until about a month ago even knew Christie was being such an ass and, as far as I know, Obama doesn't micro manage emergency aid sent to states.
    Oh well, I guess you haters gotta hate, huh?
    Because Obama's HUD reviewed such things.
    Now, if you want to say Obama doesn't know what his HUD does ... or what his IRS does ... or his NSA does ... those are for other threads.

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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Because Obama's HUD reviewed such things.
    Now, if you want to say Obama doesn't know what his HUD does ... or what his IRS does ... or his NSA does ... those are for other threads.
    Apparently you are ignorant about accounting. Not spending money isn't usually noticed as an accounting issue or even a fraud issue unless or until it is shown to be a political issue or until someone complains to the Obama administration, which apparently was not done. Now, I disagree with her waiting, but I am a gal with way too much bravado and can't expect that everyone will choose the same as I would. I would've made sure to wear a bug of my own and other similar things so I would have proof and then I'd be all up in the media and the FEMA (not HUD, I don't think) administration. But that's me. Many people give up and feel instead as though the possible/probable outcome of putting up a fuss is worse than taking a hit. Having been hit many times for being outspoken, I can be symapthetic to that idea. In her case, at the time, perhaps she felt the hit to her city would be too much, though I do note in her favor that she still hasn't caved to Christie's demands.
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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Apparently you are ignorant about accounting.
    Not spending money isn't usually noticed as an accounting issue or even a fraud issue unless or until it is shown to be a political issue or until someone complains to the Obama administration, which apparently was not done. Now, I disagree with her waiting, but I am a gal with way too much bravado and can't expect that everyone will choose the same as I would. I would've made sure to wear a bug of my own and other similar things so I would have proof and then I'd be all up in the media and the FEMA (not HUD, I don't think) administration. But that's me. Many people give up and feel instead as though the possible/probable outcome of putting up a fuss is worse than taking a hit. Having been hit many times for being outspoken, I can be symapthetic to that idea. In her case,
    at the time, perhaps she felt the hit to her city would be too much,
    though I do note in her favor that she still hasn't caved to Christie's demands.

    Don't do that ... it's a silly obvious tactic that hurts the person's credibility who's trying it.
    Other than that, I hear what you're saying .. but be careful.
    Bottom line is that HUD approved of what Christie did or didn't do with the Federal disaster relief and there are enough questions about the totality of what Zimmer's saying to give anyone pause.

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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Don't do that ... it's a silly obvious tactic that hurts the person's credibility who's trying it.
    Other than that, I hear what you're saying .. but be careful.
    Bottom line is that HUD approved of what Christie did or didn't do with the Federal disaster relief and there are enough questions about the totality of what Zimmer's saying to give anyone pause.
    Please provide any sort of proof HUD has final approval of individual monies spent regarding Sandy recovery, and/or that it is even HUD and not FEMA, and finally show you're not ignorant about accounting and show how an un-complained about lack of monies being spent would alert either organization, whichever is in charge of emergency relief and recovery efforts.
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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Please provide any sort of proof HUD has final approval of individual monies spent regarding Sandy recovery, and/or that it is even HUD and not FEMA, and finally show you're not ignorant about accounting and show how an un-complained about lack of monies being spent would alert either organization, whichever is in charge of emergency relief and recovery efforts.
    Please provide an audio recording of Zimmer's alleged conversation with Guadagno.
    Sorry, but you sound too much like a Dem or Union operative.
    Am I close?
    Hey ... I heard Wendy Davis in Texas built her persona on lies ... that must make you furious

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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Please provide an audio recording of Zimmer's alleged conversation with Guadagno.
    Sorry, but you sound too much like a Dem or Union operative.
    Am I close?
    Hey ... I heard Wendy Davis in Texas built her persona on lies ... that must make you furious
    I see, you state that you're ignorant, then get upset about being pegged as ignorant, then prove you're unable/unwilling to become educated about your ignorance and instead throw up a strawman about my position. Thank you for the clear representation of yourself. Bless your heart.
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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Please provide an audio recording of Zimmer's alleged conversation with Guadagno.
    Sorry, but you sound too much like a Dem or Union operative.
    Am I close?
    Hey ... I heard Wendy Davis in Texas built her persona on lies ... that must make you furious
    She did admit that her biography had "fuzzy" facts. Could that mean she didn't tell the truth? She's a politician, for God's sake...did you expect something different?

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    Re: Mayor Claims Christie Camp Held Hurricane Sandy Money Hostage

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I see, you state that you're ignorant, then get upset about being pegged as ignorant, then prove you're unable/unwilling to become educated about your ignorance
    and instead throw up a strawman about my position. Thank you for the clear representation of yourself. Bless your heart.

    THERE ... there it is again ... that's what I was talking about ... same plays from the same playbook.

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