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    Virginia’s Moran Announces Retirement From Congress

    Senior appropriator and progressive stalwart James P. Moran will step down at the end of this year, making him the third House Democrat in just three days to announce his retirement.
    Now, while Moran was in a district that is decidedly blue, which Republicans don't have a snowball's chance in hell of taking, other retiring Democrats have held office in districts which were slightly red, thus making it hard to defend those seats. Earlier this year, I predicted that, while Democrats would pick up a few seats, Republicans would still hold the House in the 2014 elections. I now change that prediction. Democrats might actually lose a seat or 2 this year.

    Why do I predict that House will remain Republican? It has to do with the paradigm each party is employing in it's races. While Democrats have a top down approach, which pushes mostly nationally, and relies on coattails of national figures to win local seats in many districts, the Republicans utilize a bottom up approach, concentrating on local races, and then leveraging their wins by taking over states and then gerrymandering their districts. The result is that, while Democrats seem to enjoy an edge these days in presidential races, many states which are considered purple, or even blue, are controlled by Republicans. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Virginia are good examples of this. They all went for Obama in 2012, but their legislatures, as well as their congressional districts, are mostly Republican.

    Before Democrats start whining about how unfair this is, I must tell them that, if they had thought of this, they would have done it. But it was Republicans who came up with it, and it is Republicans who are enjoying the benefits. Democrats snoozed, and they loozed. LOL.

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    Re: Virginia’s Moran Announces Retirement From Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now, while Moran was in a district that is decidedly blue, which Republicans don't have a snowball's chance in hell of taking, other retiring Democrats have held office in districts which were slightly red, thus making it hard to defend those seats. Earlier this year, I predicted that, while Democrats would pick up a few seats, Republicans would still hold the House in the 2014 elections. I now change that prediction. Democrats might actually lose a seat or 2 this year.

    Why do I predict that House will remain Republican? It has to do with the paradigm each party is employing in it's races. While Democrats have a top down approach, which pushes mostly nationally, and relies on coattails of national figures to win local seats in many districts, the Republicans utilize a bottom up approach, concentrating on local races, and then leveraging their wins by taking over states and then gerrymandering their districts. The result is that, while Democrats seem to enjoy an edge these days in presidential races, many states which are considered purple, or even blue, are controlled by Republicans. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Virginia are good examples of this. They all went for Obama in 2012, but their legislatures, as well as their congressional districts, are mostly Republican.

    Before Democrats start whining about how unfair this is, I must tell them that, if they had thought of this, they would have done it. But it was Republicans who came up with it, and it is Republicans who are enjoying the benefits. Democrats snoozed, and they loozed. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Rigging the electoral system is ok because you guys totally would have done it too!"
    Actually, it's okay because the Democrats did it in the past as well (NC12 [used to be NC13], Mel Watt's District for example). As I have continually heard from Democrats regarding the election of Obama... Elections Have Consequences...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Rigging the electoral system is ok because you guys totally would have done it too!"
    "Have done it too" would be correct, and not "would have".

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    Re: Virginia’s Moran Announces Retirement From Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now, while Moran was in a district that is decidedly blue, which Republicans don't have a snowball's chance in hell of taking, other retiring Democrats have held office in districts which were slightly red, thus making it hard to defend those seats. Earlier this year, I predicted that, while Democrats would pick up a few seats, Republicans would still hold the House in the 2014 elections. I now change that prediction. Democrats might actually lose a seat or 2 this year.

    Why do I predict that House will remain Republican? It has to do with the paradigm each party is employing in it's races. While Democrats have a top down approach, which pushes mostly nationally, and relies on coattails of national figures to win local seats in many districts, the Republicans utilize a bottom up approach, concentrating on local races, and then leveraging their wins by taking over states and then gerrymandering their districts. The result is that, while Democrats seem to enjoy an edge these days in presidential races, many states which are considered purple, or even blue, are controlled by Republicans. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Virginia are good examples of this. They all went for Obama in 2012, but their legislatures, as well as their congressional districts, are mostly Republican.

    Before Democrats start whining about how unfair this is, I must tell them that, if they had thought of this, they would have done it. But it was Republicans who came up with it, and it is Republicans who are enjoying the benefits. Democrats snoozed, and they loozed. LOL.

    Article is here.
    You can add NC to your list of purple states that have gone red on the state and local elections but went for Obama both times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    "Have done it too" would be correct, and not "would have".
    Which should tell you why Gerrymandering should be made illegal. But neither party will do so because it would limit their power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    You can add NC to your list of purple states that have gone red on the state and local elections but went for Obama both times.
    In the case of NC, it's still slightly red, statewide. The reason it went for Obama both times is that there was not an opponent that many Conservative voters liked, so they stayed home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    You can add NC to your list of purple states that have gone red on the state and local elections but went for Obama both times.
    This is largely due to the republicans offering unappealing candidates. Neither McCain nor Romney were considered right-leaning at all, and Romney in particular was suspect from the start with bona fides as Governor of the most left-leaning state in the country. George McGovern lost 49 states to Nixon, but won Massachusetts, so there's a history that even the most uninformed voter is aware of. Whether that's dispositive is arguable, but the evidence certainly supports it by the outcome of the elections in those states.

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    Re: Virginia’s Moran Announces Retirement From Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which should tell you why Gerrymandering should be made illegal. But neither party will do so because it would limit their power.
    I don't disagree. I don't get to make the rules though. I would, but they've never asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which should tell you why Gerrymandering should be made illegal. But neither party will do so because it would limit their power.
    How would you make it illegal, when the Constitution, Article 1, Section 4, states that the times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof. So it was the states that were given the authority to decide how those representatives would be elected. They could have set up a proportional representation system, everyone running at large statewide in which case redistricting would never have arisen as a problem. Even though a few states do this, that's not the way it is in all states.

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