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The pipeline will have no real permanent employment affect, well maybe for toxic waste disposal.
There is no shortage of 'good' crude to refine, there will be no new refineries built for the sludge. capacity in refining will be diverted to handle the tar sludge. The oil will not come back to the USofA until it is turned into cheap consumer crap in China. China needs oil and damn sure will not refine it to send it to us- they will USE it.
So a tanker sinking is mass environmental damage- then you agree that deep water offshore drilling runs the same massive risk? The BP oil spill in the Gulf was a HUGE disaster?
Now when it comes to oil at twice the price- the process to make tar sands 'flow' in a pipeline, the chemicals to strip the tar from the sands, liquefy the tar and then must be removed at the Gulf refineries are not 'free'. You seem intent on making the toxic sludge seem cheap, it isn't.
Sorry, but in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary, my evidence says this is not a substantial job creator.
(getting tired of these people that have no game)....
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I think the one large driver for the Mckenzie pipeline -the large natural gas formation in the Beaufort Sea and Mackenzie Delta , now has a lowered appeal due to the glut of Ch4 from U.S Shale and fracking.
Demand and price has faded for gas . They are building an all season road to the Arctic ocean, Inuvik to Tuk, ( Feds are promoting it `Can drive from sea to sea to sea ). Needs a six foot high gravel base to keep the permafrost frozen ; but I think a deep port in Tuktoyaktuk is far off. December sea ice is pretty heavy this year, pretty thick to get out west past Point Barrow. It looks more like mid 1980s december ice. Still too much ice to be in the cards -open water season still too short to make it financially viable, I`d guess a military deep port would go into Nunavat , first , if any were built.
The Northern gateway pipeline is working it`s way through the system:
Northern Gateway pipeline recommended for federal approval, with conditions - Calgary - CBC News
Tough to predict . I`m guessing the money will remove the obstructions to construction
I would recommend the Canadians run a pipeline to British Columbia or Nova Scotia. That will give them control over the exports. Personally, I wouldn't trust the U.S. government for anything. Our government is in the business of getting in the way of things, not helping things.
Why is Keystone so important to supporters and opponents? | Toronto Star
TransCanadas 'Energy East", Enbridge doubling the eastward flow in their Alberta Clipper, and the Northern Gateway to Kitimat BC, to export oil across the Pacific, made it through the first legal hurdle.
Unfortunately-no. Most Canadians suffer under the illusion that Canada has oil, considering that there are a few hundred billion barrels of recoverable hydrocarbon in Alberta. But Canadas oil is controlled in Houston and Washington, Canada is one of the few oil exporting countries with no energy policy.That will give them control over the exports.
Article 605 of the North American Free Trade agreement ensures continued American control. Mexico was smart enought to reject that clause -that states you can't jack the price, you can't throttle the flow...etc.
Oil flow to the U.S can not be decreased.