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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B | Fox News

    Jobs, wealth, energy. Things we lose with that idiot in the White House.
    He certainly seems to have his own agenda.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

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    How terrible! Exported oil that reduces the price of oil on the world market - just terrible!
    If it happens then its good that it's going to be exported and yes we have a global energy market, but that crude and gas will be more expensive due to transportation costs and the circuitous route. I've also heard they are talking about opening a rail option which would compound that problem. The pipeline is the best course for Canada and the United States and every policy maker knows it but doesn't feel like they have the cover to jump at it. Though it looks like this may finally be moving.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

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    If all answers are obvious, why are we even here? To throw out snappy one liners? I've seen you post intelligent analysis and I've seen you post useless replies. So how about answering the question or don't bother responding.

    "The answer should be obvious" is no answer at all. You're just being insulting. And I suspect it is because you don't have a clue what the answer is. You just want to post "I hate Obama" over and over again. How utterly boring.

    I'm an adult and I've never blown you off or demeaned you. How about some respect or lets just put each other on ignore and you can find someone more of your maturity level to have one sentence discourse with.
    Obama is knowingly harming the country. How do you explain it?
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

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    Obama is knowingly harming the country. How do you explain it?
    That is exactly the question that I asked you. If you'll answer the question I'll give you an intelligent response and might very well agree with you. But if you are just turning the question back to me, we won't be going anywhere.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    You almost nailed it. I mean really nailed it. One of the primary opponents to the Keystone project is a guy named Warren Buffet who sleeps over at the white house once in a while and has the bama-ear. Warren really thinks the pipeline stinks and is horrible, but he isn't an environmentalist - he's an opportunist. His trains carry oil!


    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    If it happens then its good that it's going to be exported and yes we have a global energy market, but that crude and gas will be more expensive due to transportation costs and the circuitous route. I've also heard they are talking about opening a rail option which would compound that problem. The pipeline is the best course for Canada and the United States and every policy maker knows it but doesn't feel like they have the cover to jump at it. Though it looks like this may finally be moving.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    That is exactly the question that I asked you. If you'll answer the question I'll give you an intelligent response and might very well agree with you. But if you are just turning the question back to me, we won't be going anywhere.
    First, you must ask an intelligent, relevant question.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    First, you must ask an intelligent, relevant question.
    Lets try one more time. I asked:
    Do you have a non-partisan opinion as to why Obama is stalling on this? A reason, not a rant please. Even if you disagree with the reason - what is the actual reason (in Obama's view)? Do you know? Does anybody?

    You responded: To destroy America. That's why

    So I asked: Seems like a circuitous route to go about destroying America. Why not start a nuclear war or something more definitive?

    So, lets start over. Why would Obama want to "destroy" (your words) America? Change America or Socialize America, you might have a case. But destroy - why would a) he even want to do that and b) if he did, why use such an obscure method such as delaying a pipeline?

    If my question is not relevant or intelligent enough to satisfy you, then please don't bother responding. I'm trying to have a useful and civilized conversation. I'm sure as hell no Obama fan but my personal distaste for him does not invalidate my questions.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B | Fox News

    Jobs, wealth, energy. Things we lose with that idiot in the White House.
    Rarely has so much been made out of so little.

    Will Keystone XL Pipeline Create Many Construction Jobs? | Energy Economy | LiveScience

    Why do you want this toxic sludge traveling through the US to create 50 permanent jobs and 4,000 temporary jobs? A good highway bill would do much more for America; short-term and more importantly, long-term.

    It's Canadian sludge.... its about time they take the risk of piping through their Rockies...

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Rarely has so much been made out of so little.

    Will Keystone XL Pipeline Create Many Construction Jobs? | Energy Economy | LiveScience

    Why do you want this toxic sludge traveling through the US to create 50 permanent jobs and 4,000 temporary jobs? A good highway bill would do much more for America; short-term and more importantly, long-term.

    It's Canadian sludge.... its about time they take the risk of piping through their Rockies...
    I see, you are willfully ignorant! You think it's a "Build the pipe and that's it?" The oil gets refined,m the pipe has to be maintained... it has to be loaded on to ships... ya know, those long term things people like you ignore.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    What is the big deal? So the pipeline does not go through...so what?

    Oil can be shipped by rail at a cost (by my understanding) not that much greater then by pipeline.

    And if Canada sends the oil to it's west coast and ships it from there, who is to say it won't ship some/much/most of it to America?

    Sure, a pipeline is convenient...but it also forces Canada to further depend on America for it's economy. Were I the Canadian PM, I would either forget the pipeline OR encourage both the Keystone and one to the west coast...keep my options open.
    From what I understand, Canada's oil production is going to grow hugely over the next few years...why should they limit their market to - in essence - just America?

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