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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Do you have a non-partisan opinion as to why Obama is stalling on this? A reason, not a rant please. Even if you disagree with the reason - what is the actual reason (in Obama's view)? Do you know? Does anybody?

    I do. It's because Americans now want something for nothing, believing it will just magically appear and that someone owes it to them. They want what that oil provides, they want the jobs of it and they want economic wealth. But they want it all for free.

    So they don't want the bother of a pipeline or risks of one. So Obama has - again - sold Americans that they can have something for nothing - to give up the oil and still have it.

    The radical "greenies" will explain "oil is a global market," so it will come back here anyway after refined elsewhere - and those jobs elsewhere. Then we only risk mass environmental damage of a tanker sinking, have to pay markups for loading it, shipping to that foreign refinery, pay to load it back on a ship, and pay to off load it back here. So no jobs. Twice the price.

    Of course, the foreign country it is going to is on another planet, so if there is an oil spill on their land it will not affect earth - and since all waters of the oceans continuously are flowing away from the United States, no oil tanker sinking could possibly harm us. Rather, it would float on top of the ocean flowing until it fell off the end of the flat earth into space.

    Those are the reasons.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    This is not your average, everyday oil--if there was a spill or a leak, it does not rise to the top where they could skim it off--it sinks and is practically impossible to clean up...

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B | Fox News

    Jobs, wealth, energy. Things we lose with that idiot in the White House.
    Anyone who is a strong supporter of property rights should support the Keystone pipeline being built somewhere else.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Well we may not have another market to sell it to as pipelines in our country are facing opposition due to environmental concerns as the Harper government continues to cut environmental oversight. Currently rail is how oil is being transported and as you should know it has proved to be disastrous as the Harper government cut regulation of that to.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well we may not have another market to sell it to as pipelines in our country are facing opposition due to environmental concerns as the Harper government continues to cut environmental oversight. Currently rail is how oil is being transported and as you should know it has proved to be disastrous as the Harper government cut regulation of that to.
    I am not opposing the keystone pipeline due to environmental concerns. I oppose it due to the fact the company is using eminent domain to get what they want. No company should be allowed to use eminent domain especially a foreign owned company.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    How many of you know we now have 55,000 miles of oil pipelines in the United States already. With that many miles of pipelines what is another 2-3,000 miles worth?

    How Many Pipelines are There?
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Central Alberta hydrocarbon upgrading projects are booming:
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    The hydrogen plant is done ( to upgrade the Ft Mac oilsands ), when upgraded a lot easier to ship, more options for markets.

    It's a fairly large boom, labour shortage is throttling it a bit, quite a few good paying job - help wanted -roadside billboard rental signs out, not enough workers. Airports , road and rail expanding.

    They'll tie into the existing oil pipelines south after upgrading, for now. Keystone ( or equivelant ) will get built within a decade, irrespective of the politics.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Building the pipeline does not garentee access to the oil.

    and it won't create jobs for everyone, only those with knowledge of working oil rigs and piplines.

    it is only a fig leaf.
    Well we shouldn't build hospitals, it only creates jobs for rich doctors and nurses... or Schools at it only employs teachers... what a silly statement you make.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Seems like a circuitous route to go about destroying America. Why not start a nuclear war or something more definitive?
    The answer shouod be obvious.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The answer shouod be obvious.
    If all answers are obvious, why are we even here? To throw out snappy one liners? I've seen you post intelligent analysis and I've seen you post useless replies. So how about answering the question or don't bother responding.

    "The answer should be obvious" is no answer at all. You're just being insulting. And I suspect it is because you don't have a clue what the answer is. You just want to post "I hate Obama" over and over again. How utterly boring.

    I'm an adult and I've never blown you off or demeaned you. How about some respect or lets just put each other on ignore and you can find someone more of your maturity level to have one sentence discourse with.

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