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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    It's as good as gone and it really is a shame. Would be great for the economy and overall for the USA. Anything with risk to the environment, that involves oil will be opposed at this point. So much for self sufficient.
    Does Canadian oil count toward US self-sufficiency?
    But you have a point about anything 'oil' being the cause du jour. At least it's taking some heat off the Newfoundland seal hunt and Japanese dolphin season.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    It is an export pipeline that we would be taking American land away from Americans to build, put American land in danger, and not get a drop of oil as a result.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Does Canadian oil count toward US self-sufficiency?
    But you have a point about anything 'oil' being the cause du jour. At least it's taking some heat off the Newfoundland seal hunt and Japanese dolphin season.
    No but it does equal US jobs. Someone has to maintain the pipeline in America. The self sufficient part comes from the lack of new leases for oil. And as someone stated earlier, if given a choice between Canadian oil, middle east oil, where we aren't even liked I'd take Canada, we should support our neighbors. This includes Mexico, though Mexico seems to have a lot of issues at the moment economically and beyond

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    It is an export pipeline that we would be taking American land away from Americans to build, put American land in danger, and not get a drop of oil as a result.
    Land that was already set aside for the project. Doesn't really take anything away, in fact it adds jobs American jobs, good paying ones too.. the danger to American land is minimal. Everything has risks to land, factories, cars etc etc. Maybe we should just stop all manufacturing become a completely service nation and watch our economy and dollar go to total poop. The positives clearly outweigh the negatives on this deal and it makes sense.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    Land that was already set aside for the project. Doesn't really take anything away, in fact it adds jobs American jobs, good paying ones too.. the danger to American land is minimal. Everything has risks to land, factories, cars etc etc. Maybe we should just stop all manufacturing become a completely service nation and watch our economy and dollar go to total poop. The positives clearly outweigh the negatives on this deal and it makes sense.
    Trans canada is predicting 2500-4500 jobs. We don't get a drop of oil. Environmental issues. There is a use of eminent domain to confiscate land from people on behalf of the government making money. Poor excuse for taxpayer money.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Trans canada is predicting 2500-4500 jobs. We don't get a drop of oil. Environmental issues. There is a use of eminent domain to confiscate land from people on behalf of the government making money. Poor excuse for taxpayer money.
    Nah from what I read the land is already set aside

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    Nah from what I read the land is already set aside
    there are lawsuits in every single state that it is running through about eminent domain. Especially in nebraska and texas.
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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    there are lawsuits in every single state that it is running through about eminent domain. Especially in nebraska and texas.
    I'd have to see the details of the lawsuits to make an educated response to them

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

    It always amazes me to watch people support eminent domain.

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    Re: Could US lose access to Keystone oil? Canada moves to Plan B

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    Apparently that has already begun, considering how few applications were approved for Republican political groups. I wonder when the big publishing houses will be targeted, since Obama will leave a good legacy, or else! It's fascinating to be living in 1984, isn't it? The good thing is we're both 30 years younger than we thought!
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