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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well then why did you put it forth as something equivalent to Christie's situation? I plainly said there wouldn't be an investigation. It's plainly obvious that this is political. They are looking to destroy Christie's chances for the election, even though no conservative likes the guy. But a couple of polls got Democrats running scared.
    Wiener's weiner is different than the bridge lane closures. One was just bragging, the other bullying. One used selfies and the other a political office. One violated good taste, the other the law.

    'They' are destroying Christie's chances the same way 'they' destroyed Nixon's chances of staying office after Watergate. If a political office uses it's influence to punish, intimidate, or as some sort of payback I can see an investigation. However if 'they' go to the extreme Kenneth Starr did in the White Water business then I'd agree it has gone from investigation to trying to end Christie's political career.

    Now if I had to opine on the push behind it, rather than blame the democrats, who Christie loved bashing going into office the first go-round, that old CON song and dance (Personal responsibility) is a better angle.... Christie prides himself on being no better friend and no worse enemy, I can't help but think his staff thinks the same way and gave a democratic mayor a taste of the latter.

    Christie is GTG IF no one can prove he had anything to do with the lane closures, or if he ever knew it was going on. He walks away fat and happy IF no one can prove he has lied about his lack of role or knowledge.

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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    "Hell of a thing killin' a man"...over a lane of traffic.
    A person did die because of this. Would you mock this situation to the faces of that person's family?
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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    A person did die because of this. Would you mock this situation to the faces of that person's family?
    I don't have to. The daughter of the deceased (who was 91) specifically said that the bridge closure made no difference in the outcome for her mother. So a person likely did not die from this, but died from the complications of old age.

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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I don't have to. The daughter of the deceased (who was 91) specifically said that the bridge closure made no difference in the outcome for her mother. So a person likely did not die from this, but died from the complications of old age.
    yes, we should accept the opinion of the relatives because they are, well, relatives, and dismiss the medically trained first responders who have held that the patient died because of the unnecessary traffic congestion, which delayed her access to the hospital's medical care
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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, we should accept the opinion of the relatives because they are, well, relatives, and dismiss the medically trained first responders who have held that the patient died because of the unnecessary traffic congestion, which delayed her access to the hospital's medical care
    Yeah. I haven't seen the death certificate, and neither have you. You don't have access to the patient's medical history, and it's likely that the medical responders didn't have it in hand at the time, either. The daughter did know it, though. It's not hard at all for me to imagine that attorneys would have been on the phone to her urging the daughter to pursue a suit which she would likely win, if there was a case.

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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yeah. I haven't seen the death certificate, and neither have you. You don't have access to the patient's medical history, and it's likely that the medical responders didn't have it in hand at the time, either. The daughter did know it, though. It's not hard at all for me to imagine that attorneys would have been on the phone to her urging the daughter to pursue a suit which she would likely win, if there was a case.
    i find medically trained personnel to have a credible argument that the traffic caused delay contributed to their patient's death
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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yeah. I haven't seen the death certificate, and neither have you. You don't have access to the patient's medical history, and it's likely that the medical responders didn't have it in hand at the time, either. The daughter did know it, though. It's not hard at all for me to imagine that attorneys would have been on the phone to her urging the daughter to pursue a suit which she would likely win, if there was a case.
    Yes, medical professionals who were with her at the time don't know as much as the daughter who wasn't there. And there's still certainly time for legal options. I'm not saying whether she should sue or not, but your claim that there's no lawsuit is particularly spurious.
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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i find medically trained personnel to have a credible argument that the traffic caused delay contributed to their patient's death
    I find that they found her dead when they got there to be medically significant.

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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

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    I find that they found her dead when they got there to be medically significant.
    So droll ... I love droll.

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    Re: Christie, Official Who Arranged Bridge Closures Were Together During Fiasco

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I find that they found her dead when they got there to be medically significant.
    The woman later died at a hospital of cardiac arrest, according to a Sept. 10 letter that EMS coordinator Paul Favia sent to the borough's mayor.

    Christie bridge scandal: Woman died after traffic delayed medics - latimes.com
    Are you saying saying the woman died before the paramedics arrived, got revived, and then died again at the hospital?
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