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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Where are the House minutes then?
    Are you confused? Do you think impeachment calls only come from the government (although there of course was impeachment attempts from the government too)?

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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Lol - I enjoy this reckoning. They couldn't get Obama on: IRS, Benghazi, BP, Acorn, the debt ceeling, vacations, Ayers, SCOTUS appointments, gay marriage. So far nothing seems to have stuck with the American public. (If we go by Libertarians - it's because everyone is stupid and Ron Paul has the biggest dick since Ron Jeremy's). Even with the failed state he inherited from his predecessor he's managed to level out at the same approval rating. So now they're crying over a few minor and irrelevant appointments. The Democrats should have just given the elephants this victory and just walked away. With the eventual right wing win, we'll have 7 weeks of nonstop "Nee-naing" from Republicans on what is essentially an irrelevant case. Presidents overstep the constitutional boundaries of their offices quite regularly. However, mark my words trying to impeach Obama on this will fire back on Republicans and simply make Obama more likeable. It'll be another faux gotcha moment that won't settle well with Americans.
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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Are you confused? Do you think impeachment calls only come from the government (although there of course was impeachment attempts from the government too)?
    Do you think there are other ways to impeach a President than Congress? You do need some schooling in Govt.
    You stated there were numerous calls to impeach Bush yet it appears you are unable to find even one.

    You may not know this, but House Republicans don’t like President Obama. Really, they don’t! And as a new piece from the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank shows, the antipathy on the far-right for the president has begun to slowly but surely turn into a growing chorus calling for impeachment.

    A prime example can be found in Tuesday’s House Committee on the Judiciary hearing, a spectacle of impeachment innuendo that laid bare Republicans’ current desire to find a way to unseat the president. Iowa Republican Steve King ominously and obliquely referred to “the word that we don’t like to say in this committee, and I’m not about to utter here in this particular hearing.” Texas Republican Rep. Blake Farenthold, meanwhile, said, with evident disappointment, “We’ve also talked about the I-word, impeachment, which I don’t think would get past the Senate in the current climate.”

    As Milbank shows, however, Tuesday’s hearing was hardly the only venue where Republicans — in the Senate as well as the House — have mulled aloud impeaching the president:
    House Republicans yearn to impeach Obama - Salon.com

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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You stated there were numerous calls to impeach Bush yet it appears you are unable to find even one.
    Do you believe I have not "found" one, really? If you make the claim, that you know there was no government attempt to impeach him, so there can be a person who is wrong and a person who is right, I will gladly show you one.

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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    the court ruling would depend on whether he used eo to direct existing laws and regs,or tried to create new laws through eo.
    I don't believe he did and I think the Supreme Court would rule in his favor. The Appointments Clause explicitly states that the President can appoint "inferior officers" without the Senate's consent. The Constitution doesn't define what an"inferior officer" is, but I think Supreme Court precedent on this issue would establish that positions on the National Labor Relations Board are either positions of inferior officers or not of officers at all since it is an independent agency and the positions have term limitations.

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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol - I enjoy this reckoning. They couldn't get Obama on: IRS, Benghazi, BP, Acorn, the debt ceeling, vacations, Ayers, SCOTUS appointments, gay marriage. So far nothing seems to have stuck with the American public. (If we go by Libertarians - it's because everyone is stupid and Ron Paul has the biggest dick since Ron Jeremy's). Even with the failed state he inherited from his predecessor he's managed to level out at the same approval rating. So now they're crying over a few minor and irrelevant appointments. The Democrats should have just given the elephants this victory and just walked away. With the eventual right wing win, we'll have 7 weeks of nonstop "Nee-naing" from Republicans on what is essentially an irrelevant case. Presidents overstep the constitutional boundaries of their offices quite regularly. However, mark my words trying to impeach Obama on this will fire back on Republicans and simply make Obama more likeable. It'll be another faux gotcha moment that won't settle well with Americans.
    I assure you that history will "get" President Obama.

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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol - I enjoy this reckoning. They couldn't get Obama on: IRS, Benghazi, BP, Acorn, the debt ceeling, vacations, Ayers, SCOTUS appointments, gay marriage. So far nothing seems to have stuck with the American public. (If we go by Libertarians - it's because everyone is stupid and Ron Paul has the biggest dick since Ron Jeremy's). Even with the failed state he inherited from his predecessor he's managed to level out at the same approval rating. So now they're crying over a few minor and irrelevant appointments. The Democrats should have just given the elephants this victory and just walked away. With the eventual right wing win, we'll have 7 weeks of nonstop "Nee-naing" from Republicans on what is essentially an irrelevant case. Presidents overstep the constitutional boundaries of their offices quite regularly. However, mark my words trying to impeach Obama on this will fire back on Republicans and simply make Obama more likeable. It'll be another faux gotcha moment that won't settle well with Americans.
    You would think the Republicans would have learned from their attempt to impeach Clinton. Clinton went on trail in the House of Representatives with an approval rating of 56%. When the dust settled and the senate voted against impeachment, his approval rating stood at 63%. The impeachment process actually improved his standing among the American people.

    I can't believe the Republicans would be dumb enough to try it again, but..........who knows.
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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Good point about the appointees being reconfirmed by the Senate, now that the nuclear option has been used.
    If the SCOTUS agrees the POTUS overstepped his authority.
    I wonder why the nuclear option hasn't been challenged in Court.
    It seems the Roberts Court likes State's rights/Individual rights as in Citizens United, but stands with either Bush or Obama on EOs.
    And then there's the split-decision leaning right on such issues as VRA.
    I believe it will go 6-3 with Sotomayor crossing against the POTUS, continuing the new third wing, Roberts--Kennedy--Sotomayor .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Should serve as an interesting precedent but I imagine they will just reconfirm the same appointees if SCOTUS rules that Obama exceeded his Constitutional authority.
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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I assure you that history will "get" President Obama.
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    Re: Obama’s use of executive power faces reckoning at Supreme Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    You would think the Republicans would have learned from their attempt to impeach Clinton. Clinton went on trail in the House of Representatives with an approval rating of 56%. When the dust settled and the senate voted against impeachment, his approval rating stood at 63%. The impeachment process actually improved his standing among the American people.

    I can't believe the Republicans would be dumb enough to try it again, but..........who knows.
    I'm sure they're gambling on the hyper partisan air they created with the New Contract for America. What they don't realize is that 1) the case is irrelevant 2) trying to impeach a president for what is essentially a technicality tends to backfires. This isn't Nixon & Water Gate. This is literally Republicans being mad a Democrat did the same thing a Republican president would do if confronted with a congress that refuses to work. It'll be hell to pay if they fire up congressional hearings and as we all know, the Senate will not convict as long as Democrats hold a majority - so why are they doing this? Bragging rights? Primary stances? Yeah, ask Rubio & Cruz how well that has worked for them. They're sitting at 7% each.
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